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  USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  more kingdom hall listed for sale:.

  http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.

  when are we going to see more listed...?

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  SadElder

  So the sheeples paid for the "well maintained" work out of pocket and now the land barons of the Watchtower take the money and run.
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  Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

  any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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  SadElder

  Always the money. Follow the money.
  

  I still wonder how this will play out for the lowly Bethelite. The ones who have no influence, don't get sent out on speaking assignments where they may receive the "paper handshake" to help with their expenses. In Brooklyn they were able to use mass transit to get to the kingdub hall, now they will be left in the dust with no personal vehicle.
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  SadElder

  more money, more money, more money

  Everything they do these days pleads for money. Yet the rank and file remains blind to the whole lot of them.
  
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  So.....Blended VS Single Malt

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering.

  for you scotch lovers, i've been partial to singles for a long time, but was recently given a bottle of johnnie walker green.

  i think i've fallen in love.

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  SadElder

  Usually depends on whose buying. The swill drinkers get Cutty Sark in a Blue Label bottle and they don't have a clue.
  
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  If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

  witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

  thoughts?.

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  SadElder

  Most won't even know for some time that anything changed.
  
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  The WTBTS' "Golden Calf"

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent months i have personally experienced 3 times how jehovah's witnesses' thinking and ad hominem attacks are being molded by their masters in the wtbts.. 1) j.w.

  family members have stated that i am no longer part of the family because i say "negative things" about the org.. 2) my closest friend in my former congregation complained several weeks ago that i was "finding fault" with the org every time we had a conversation.

  nothing from him since.. 3) when reverse witnessing to an elder at a trolley recently, he accused me of "criticizing the organization.".

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  SadElder

  The GB and their minders put these little tidbits in the publications as a way of numbing the minds of the flock. The change to the GB is the "faithful slave" was years in the making.This idea was being put forth among the GB themselves when Dan Sydlik was alive, he opposed it. I don't know if he eventually caved in or not. I do remember him being aggravated because some of the GB told him he was standing in the way of a "benevolent dictatorship."
  

  Slowly, slowly, the writers weaved various sayings into things so it comes as no surprise when the bombshell hits. Hence some will say "Oh, we've always believed that."
  
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  October 28, 2016 Re: Online Tour Reservation Tool for Visiting United States Bethel Facilities

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 28, 2016 to all congregations re: online tour reservation tool for visiting united states bethel facilities.

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  SadElder

  Just wait they'll start charging for tickets via this site. Oh sure they say disregard the fees, but I don't believe that will last forever once they figure out how to sell the idea. Maybe some drivel like "making best use of dedicated funds."
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  SadElder

  I used to love these take these guys who thought they were God's gift to the CO world down a peg or two. My favorite question for them after they got off the platform lambasting the congregation.... What gives you the right and authority to beat Jehovah's sheep? Most times they got all red in the face and kind of hemmed and hawed. I usually told them I was going to get on the phone and call so and so in Brooklyn at the service desk and ask them if they had authorized him to display such conduct. (These were always Bethell heavies I had known for a long time and had entertained whenever we/they were in town.)

  Yep beat the sheep until morale improves, that's the answer.
  
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  Nicolas King: JW celebrity and example of hypocrisy

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  nicolas king frequently sings with the watchtower chorus and had a supporting role in the dvd released at the 2014 convention.

  (he's on the bottom row, second from the right.).

  but he also is a jazz singer, traveling constantly performing at concerts, casinos, charity events, even a brief appearance on the tonight show.

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  SadElder

  He's wearing a necklace. According to the Beth-hell booklet I read once it says necklaces including ID type do not fit the Bethel standard. Something about homosexuals wear necklaces.
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  Hourly vs Salary which is better?

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am hourly.

  what are the pros and cons of hourly or salary?.

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  SadElder

  Effective Dec 1 the rules change in the US for the "salaried" worker. There are tests that must be met in order to disqualify salaried workers from overtime. Many companies have not been following this and are going to be caught owing a lot of overtime to folks they are presently taking advantage of by paying a salary for more than 40 hour work.

  I don't have the figures here a home but I believe a worker must make more than $900 a week and actually supervise more than one person. That's the best I can remember without looking at my notes at the office.

  So to answer the question, Now (in the US) you may be better off being an hourly worker. At least until they change everything again.