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  New light in this weeks WT?

  by Indian Larry in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?

  for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.

  in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.

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  SadElder

  Welcome to the belief of the month club. Can the dubs ever decide what they believe? Oh, I forgot..... Carl Klein explained it years ago..... tacking. Sounds tacky to me.
  
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  Scans needed, Aid to Bible Understanding (not 1971)

  by Fatfreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have the original release of the aid to bible understanding book (english), copyright, 1971 (inside front cover).

  only if there is a later copyright date cited in your aid book will i need your help.

  i wish to make a word for word comparison of certain articles that were found in the aid book, then transcribed into its predecessor -- the insight on the scriptures.. .

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  SadElder

  My copy says:

  1969 Edition 532,917 copies

  1971 Edition 500,000 copies

  I remember the excitement at the release of the first part and everyone wondering if the end would come before they finished the whole thing.

  Didn't we have parts in the "Ministry" school from the book?
  
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  USA: Kingdom Hall listed in LoopNet

  by sp74bb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  more kingdom hall listed for sale:.

  http://www.loopnet.com/locations/kingdom-hall-of-jehovah%27s-witnesses/listings/.

  when are we going to see more listed...?

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  SadElder

  So the sheeples paid for the "well maintained" work out of pocket and now the land barons of the Watchtower take the money and run.
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  Why Did JWs Abandon Brooklyn for the Sticks?

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i may have missed this, but can anyone tell me what was the pretext the gb concocted to justify their abandonment of a perfectly suitable, high-profile, high-visibility complex in what is arguably the world's greatest metropolis for the bucolic isolation of upstate new york.

  any how does the move square with their purported belief in the imminence of armageddon?

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  SadElder

  Always the money. Follow the money.
  

  I still wonder how this will play out for the lowly Bethelite. The ones who have no influence, don't get sent out on speaking assignments where they may receive the "paper handshake" to help with their expenses. In Brooklyn they were able to use mass transit to get to the kingdub hall, now they will be left in the dust with no personal vehicle.
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  Update on U.S. Local Design/Construction Arrangement—November 2016

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  update on u.s. local design/construction arrangement—november 2016 video will be considered the week of november 7, 2016. english and spanish.

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  SadElder

  more money, more money, more money

  Everything they do these days pleads for money. Yet the rank and file remains blind to the whole lot of them.
  
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  So.....Blended VS Single Malt

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering.

  for you scotch lovers, i've been partial to singles for a long time, but was recently given a bottle of johnnie walker green.

  i think i've fallen in love.

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  Usually depends on whose buying. The swill drinkers get Cutty Sark in a Blue Label bottle and they don't have a clue.
  
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  If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

  witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

  thoughts?.

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  Most won't even know for some time that anything changed.
  
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  The WTBTS' "Golden Calf"

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in recent months i have personally experienced 3 times how jehovah's witnesses' thinking and ad hominem attacks are being molded by their masters in the wtbts.. 1) j.w.

  family members have stated that i am no longer part of the family because i say "negative things" about the org.. 2) my closest friend in my former congregation complained several weeks ago that i was "finding fault" with the org every time we had a conversation.

  nothing from him since.. 3) when reverse witnessing to an elder at a trolley recently, he accused me of "criticizing the organization.".

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  The GB and their minders put these little tidbits in the publications as a way of numbing the minds of the flock. The change to the GB is the "faithful slave" was years in the making.This idea was being put forth among the GB themselves when Dan Sydlik was alive, he opposed it. I don't know if he eventually caved in or not. I do remember him being aggravated because some of the GB told him he was standing in the way of a "benevolent dictatorship."
  

  Slowly, slowly, the writers weaved various sayings into things so it comes as no surprise when the bombshell hits. Hence some will say "Oh, we've always believed that."
  
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  October 28, 2016 Re: Online Tour Reservation Tool for Visiting United States Bethel Facilities

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 28, 2016 to all congregations re: online tour reservation tool for visiting united states bethel facilities.

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  SadElder

  Just wait they'll start charging for tickets via this site. Oh sure they say disregard the fees, but I don't believe that will last forever once they figure out how to sell the idea. Maybe some drivel like "making best use of dedicated funds."
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  CO visit... Circuit is not growing at all, he said during midweek meeting

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so that was a "shocker".

  i was not able to attend the meeting.

  i had a more important one with my other apostate friends in the area.

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  SadElder

  I used to love these take these guys who thought they were God's gift to the CO world down a peg or two. My favorite question for them after they got off the platform lambasting the congregation.... What gives you the right and authority to beat Jehovah's sheep? Most times they got all red in the face and kind of hemmed and hawed. I usually told them I was going to get on the phone and call so and so in Brooklyn at the service desk and ask them if they had authorized him to display such conduct. (These were always Bethell heavies I had known for a long time and had entertained whenever we/they were in town.)

  Yep beat the sheep until morale improves, that's the answer.