the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses of namibia has asserted its right to be exempt as an "employer" for purposes of payment to those who work on its behalf, nor are they responsible (they claim) for filing any social security documents as to wages, hours worked, withholding, etc.in 2014, the congregation asked to be de-registered as such.____it didn't go so well.____on the 16 june 2014, authorities replied to the jw's request by confirming that the appellant is considered an employer in terms of the ss act and consequently should be registered with the employees’ compensation fund established by the employees’ compensation act, 1941, as well as having the order register its members with the maternity, sick leave and death benefit established by the ss act___a ping-pong protest and response commenced with multiple requests for clarification by the dubs and protestations and requests for appeal, etc.____authorities decided this matter was best handled by visiting the premises and investigating for themselves what goes on.____after the "visit" by authorities, nothing was offered by the dubs to change any minds.___the jw's continued to whine and protest and appeal, etc.____the authorities examined the congregation's appeal and made the following evaluation:== in the respondent’s listed grounds of opposition, it noted that the appeal filed by the appellant is not proper as it failed to complete the form 11 as contemplated in rule 17(2)(a) of the rules of this court==___jw's protested and appealed the appeal response which didn't appeal to them.___arguments continued until the following finding was released:the labour amendment act stipulates that:18 ‘for the purposes of this act or any other employment law, until the contrary is proved, an individual who works for or renders services to any other person, is presumed to be an employee of that other person, regardless of the form of the contract or the designation of the individual, if any one or more of the following factors is present:(list of factors attached)____blah-blah-blah-blahfinally:the ss act does not provide for de-registration of employers.
accordingly, logic follows that once an employer has been registered under this act, the obligations created in terms of this act ceases to exist only where the employer (who is a natural person) dies or becomes insolvent or is sequestrated or is liquidated or wound up (where an employer is a juristic person).
employees may be ‘de-registered’ under that employer in the event they die or their services have been terminated._______cut to the chase:accordingly, the appellant cannot pick and choose which laws should apply to them and which not.
One of the same reasons those moneysuckers started the "Order" and vow of poverty in the US. They wanted to avoid paying Social Security taxes for Bethellites and others.
It makes me angry every time I hear about this stuff. I don't understand why dubs don't see all this subterfuge.
i've been to the kingdom ministry school (for elders) recently and can report that it is mostly the usual mix of cliches and platitudes.
several letters where basically just read through one line at a time.
one point early on though almost made me laugh out loud.
I feel left out. Never have I had scantily clad maiden ads appear on the side or anywhere else.
i originally posted this on the reddit exjw subreddit on 7 feb 2017. i think it's worth revisiting.
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/35255519-75/land-management-division-recommends-approval-of-gimpl-hill-subdivision.html.csp.
in 2008, they borrowed $1.87 million from the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, the legal arm of the jehovah’s witnesses group, to start the project.
I've seen this somewhere before but don't remember where. Maybe here somewhere, but my searching failed me.
It is quite curious.
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yeah, he's a weird kid.
but at least he's studious..
are you sure he wasn't calling to the toilet god Ralph?
november 13, 2017 to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory re: making the best use of our kingdom halls.
Sounds like damage control. Are they perhaps planning some other changes before then that need to be explained (defended)?
this was posted on the christian century magazine yesterday.
don't know how these folks could be dubs and go to another church without getting caught by some busybody in dubland,.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/first-person/why-my-church-stopped-decking-halls.
Darkspilver you are correct. I took the mention of them in the same paragraph as dubs to include them as such. Couldn't imagine a couple of dubs going there unless they were such in name only.
this was posted on the christian century magazine yesterday.
don't know how these folks could be dubs and go to another church without getting caught by some busybody in dubland,.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/first-person/why-my-church-stopped-decking-halls.
Darkspilver I guess they claim to be Witnesses still if I read the article correctly. At least that's what the author called them. You know the JW congo where they live will go after them sooner or later. Can't have Witnesses attending some other church meeting can we now?
this was posted on the christian century magazine yesterday.
don't know how these folks could be dubs and go to another church without getting caught by some busybody in dubland,.
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/first-person/why-my-church-stopped-decking-halls.
This was posted on The Christian Century magazine yesterday. Don't know how these folks could be dubs and go to another church without getting caught by some busybody in dubland,
https://www.christiancentury.org/article/first-person/why-my-church-stopped-decking-halls
publication court of appeal, fourth appellate district division one state of california osbaldo padron, plaintiff and respondent, v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., defendant and appellant.findingwatchtower has abused the discovery process.
it has zealously advocated its position and lost multiple times.
yet, it cavalierly refuses to acknowledge the consequences of these losses and the validity of the court's orders requiring it to produce documents in response to request number 12. and, in a further act of defiance, watchtower informed the court that it would not comply with the march 25, 2016 order 39 requiring it to produce documents responsive to request number 12. the court, following lopez, supra, 246 cal.app.4th 566, as an incremental step toward terminating sanctions if watchtower persists in its unjustified conduct, imposed monetary sanctions.
Likely they will take this to a higher court if they can. They love to litigate and claim persecution when they lose.
we attended an orchestral concert last night.
before the show there was have a drink mingle thing and my dear wife met some sisters who she sees so many times a week and got into a round x round conversation on......fs arrangements.. no commentary on the music to come, the beautiful venue or the opportunity to take in such a concert.
i went to the loo .....
Few of the dubs we knew involved themselves with the arts. Most looked at us oddly when we invite them to join us at concerts and the like. Now if it was a rock or country music group that would have been another story.
We're part of the founders group at the recently completed symphony facility and attend most concerts. Haven't seen one dub there in the last three years. Too bad for them.
