When working at Crooklyn on some special projects, I remember seeing Martin Poetzinger and his wife standing on the corner down by Cadman Plaza holding up magazines like little soldiers but can't recall ever seeing them converse with anyone. Maybe they got a 2 for one hour credit for going out in service right there for all the visitors to see.
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Governing Body - Time in Ministry
by Peeringin inis there any transparency in how many hours on the ministry the governing body members do on the ministry?
by this i mean the physical act of going door to door in their area.
i guess it is plausible that they would count overseas trips and working on publications as part of their ministry, but this is not what they encourage from the jw on the street.. is it possible for a gb member to be reproved or otherwise for not going out in service?
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Oh how this religion has changed! Would this have been permitted 20 years ago??
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://m.facebook.com/100002613343180/posts/2271710659592690?sfns=mo.
would the old-timers even recognise this religion anymore?.
this is from one of the international conventions held this year.
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I believe it was Ted (The Boss) Jaracz who put a stop to all 'secular' entertainment after a Zone/Branch visit he made. Even the Gilead graduations stopped having demonstrations of local culture and became boring as hell.
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Remember when we lodged in private homes at conventions?
by FatFreek 2005 ini bring this up now because i haven't seen any postings about that practice because i got out in 1977. when did wt quit soliciting private homes for accomodations?
or have they stopped?.
i hated it, but it was the only way we could afford to go.
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The last time I recall doing "rooming work" was for the Washington, D.C. convention in 1968. Beyond that time either my memory or the work has disappeared.
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What's Tony up to today?
by FatFreek 2005 inmaking a jw dot org tv presentation?
making a liquor run for his cronies?
in hiding?
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Stan: Some years ago in West Palm Beach, FL a brother directed that year's drama did the introduction quite full of the spirit, it was very evident. Don't know what happened to him.
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The Great KH Sell-Off
by snugglebunny inre the great kh sell off: could a congregation refuse to sign over their kingdom hall to the society?
i seem to recall - many years ago admittedly - that my home kh had been paid for by voluntary donations, no loans being involved.
i have no idea what the situation is now, but i do recall that many jw's contributed a set amount every month to the kh fund until there was enough money in the pot to build one.
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Some years ago they (Crooklyn) had all US congregations add certain language to their articles of incorporation that named Watchtower or one of the shill corporations they use as ultimate beneficiary if the congregation ceased to exist. The actual verbiage used was adjusted to the laws of each state. The Circuit Overseer was to check the corporate documents to make certain that this was done.
In our congregation this was adopted by the corporate body which was then all appointed men. The rank and file never even knew this was done and probably still don't. Could someone make a case that this was not the will of the people and get that set aside? The legal eagles can weigh in on this.
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Service Department Reminder!
by Atlantis inwas not sure if all of the friends got a copy of this.. .
service department reminder.. .
this reminder came in with the other gdpr boe.
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Wonder if the elders know the Bethell message system tells mother when or if they read the documents sent?
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Why doesn't the Watchtower Society never study the Bible cover to cover?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inin the 40 years as a jehovah's witness, i never read the bible cover to cover.
the three meetings a week were broken up with book studies, awake and watchtower magazines,and ministry& field service meetings, all written by the watchtower society.
never did we read any chapters from genesis to revelation and discuss the true meaning of what we just read.
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Some years ago in what was then called the "Theocratic Ministry School" the first talk or "Instruction talk" was spent reviewing the material from the "All Scripture (si)" book which contained 66 chapters discussing a particular bible book. I seem to recall there may have been several weeks spent on each chapter. Periodically a review of the book with the same format was brought back. I guess that was the lame attempt at covering the Bible books.
For some reason the "All Scripture" book seems to have fallen out of favor.
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Does Anyone Remember Mr. Coffee
by new boy inthe apostate that hung around bethel back in the early 1970's.. i talk about "the frog" and "lady margret" in my book but knew nothing about "mr. coffee".
any help please.
new boy.
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I just remembred the poor deranged guy who came to be known as Coffeemate. He was a street person, crazy as a loon, but harmless. His best was mocking Mr. Coffee and a few other choice expressions. -
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Does Anyone Remember Mr. Coffee
by new boy inthe apostate that hung around bethel back in the early 1970's.. i talk about "the frog" and "lady margret" in my book but knew nothing about "mr. coffee".
any help please.
new boy.
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Oh boy.... Mr Coffee.... he was a hoot. I may have a recording of him stashed somewhere. I'll have to search but I'm not hopeful.
I believe he was disfellowshiped from the 124 congregation but I can't recall for certain if that was the congo.
When I was there working on some special in the early 80's I remember his almost daily outrage at our "coffee on the Bethel table morning, noon and night" diatribes. He was especially vehement with Fred Franz. On my way down the hill to 25 occasionally I'd get shot at too, "another new suit this one has, hah, 14 dollars a month. Hypocrites, robots, .... blah blah." Then there was "on the Awake dated ??? there was a picture of a pregnant woman, a pregnant woman, and some blather about coffee again."
At some point he got beat up by some neighbors and later, not during my time there, he was backed over by a Bethelite driving a truck and sustained a broken leg, I think Bob Thaal (sp) was the driver.
I took a quick look through my files and didn't find the cassette that "Coffee" was on so I guess it's gone for good.
Thanks for the reminders, and bringing a smile at some old memories.
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Did anyone else have a JW "sliding doors" moment when they made the wrong call.
by dozy inreading the thread on mind numbing meetings reminds me of the following event that occurred when i was about 19.. i'd got a full time job away after leaving school and was working about 20 miles away - thursday night meetings necessitated working later , catching a 6.10pm bus after work and walking 10 minutes or so straight to the kh , often arriving just as the meetings were starting or a few minutes late and getting the "evil eye" from some of the jws when i arrived.
my parents ( father was the presiding overseer ) would bring my clothes in the car and i would get changed into my suit in the kh toilets.. it was one of those moments when all the stars seemed to align.
i had had a particularly stressful day at work and was even more tired & hungry than usual on a thursday night.
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How sad that the dubs by and large are such jerks. High and mighty opinions of themselves looking down on everyone else. Now you're free and more at peace.
Years ago during the construction of one of the assembly halls I served on the assembly hall committee. This of course had a great impact on my field service presence. One of the "holier then thou" elders started making an issue that I wasn't taking the lead. So every few weeks I came and conducted the meeting for field service but dressed for work at the assembly hall. Of course this was not good enough for Mr. Holier, so he started making an issue of that too, no tie at the Kingdom Hall you know. The very next meeting after one of his diatribes, since I was secretary I brought all the secretary things to the meeting and dropped them in the lap of the PO. At the Assembly Hall overseers meeting I resigned from my position. Unbeknown to me the assembly hall committee via the Brooklyn Service Desk called all the elders in our congregation to a special meeting with the CO and DO and read the elders the riot act. They wanted to know what contribution they were making to help complete the assembly hall? Of course the elder body sat there with a thumb up their behinds not knowing what to say. Needless to say they went home with blistered backsides and I remained on the committee. I told the body to keep the secretary job. When the assembly hall was completed we sold our house and moved away, the beginning of our fade. Those were the days, now we have better ones.