during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.
eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?
how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".
Sounds like Circular Reasoning (or circular logic).
Jehovah is omniscient, infallible, etc.
Therefore, the present truth from Jehovah is always the truth.
from Wiki, a definition:
My Blundstones, and the Motorola T720.
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This little gem lasted almost 5 years, and was dropped countless times. One day, the hinge just fell apart in my hand. No wonder Motorola went out of business - they didn't make good use of the concept of 'planned obsolescence'.
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edit: I hate that the company name becomes a link? I did not do that.
who can forget the opening credit to the wonder years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ob59hsrafu.
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That album, Hortensia, "Les Mad Dogs, Les Englishmen, and Joe Cocker!" I always loved his version of She Came In Through the Bathroom Window on that.
i don't think i've started but one or two threads before.
i find myself sitting here listening to beautiful instrumental christmas music and feeling down.. you see, i was "in" for over thirty years.
thirty years with no christmas.
You're a good mom, and I am sure your parents would be proud. That was very moving, your daughter's JC brought back a lot of memories (but she has parents who really DO love her), and smiling through a bit of mist here. Missing the mom I never had (hey we are never too old for that), and thank you for sharing and being inclusive. xo
i would like your thoughts, please..
No. I am not welcome at joyful celebrations, so I refuse to attend their 30-minute memorial infomercials.
who can forget the opening credit to the wonder years.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ob59hsrafu.
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He was one of my favs. Saw him in concert in the 70s, and it was and always will be, one of those 'thrill of a lifetime' evenings. RIP, sir, you will be missed.
You are so beautiful ... to me!
as we all know, the internet is a real game-changer in allowing us to know the truth about the watch tower and its history.
i always had doubts and it was the internet that presented me with the ever-growing number of individuals who were going through a similar struggle.. i give the internet a 9 in my awakening.
what about you?.
Zero. Like JeffT, I left before the internet was in existence. I had my own 'awakening', and went to the library for my research. James Penton's book was the only thing we had back then, along with other 'cult researchers'. A big shout-out to Dr. Penton - thank you, sir!
xx
tal
http://buy.hereliesthetruth.com/#buy.
if you decide to buy a copy, please post and share your thoughts.. (i can't afford it really).
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I look forward to seeing this vid.
I suggest that you shop it to CBC Canada, as they have two spots every week for documentaries, and it would have a good chance of being shown on national TV in Canada. That may not be profitable, but after the film fests, etc., and the buzz dies down,,, a free offering on public broadcasting networks such as the CBC would be AWESOME. :D
tal
i know, people are very different and have different levels of holds to the organization, but i'm insanely curious about how long an exposure to ttatt may marinate before culminating into an action to research further.. from your earliest memory of a planted seed due to an event, challenge from another person, accidental website hit... whatever... (the crack) to the time the ttatt became a reality, (the avalanche), how much time expired?.
i guess we have to remember that everyone here is a success story and that for many, it may be never.. .
It was a spontaneous reaction. My friend suicided because he was gay, I got very sick and when I literally woke up from a long (several months) illness, I realized that I didn't believe it was the "Truth". The lies, the hypocrisy, just hit me in the face - BOOM!
Was I lost without friends or family? yes
Did I know what to do? no
Was I ever going back to the KH? no
And, many, many years later, I am happy to say that I have never set foot in a KH since 1976. It's been a rough road, but to any teen who is reading, and wondering if they can survive the shunning ---- YES YOU CAN. And life is so much better, when you are free from "Jehovah".
xo
tal
hey!.
it's the weekend.. is there anything more glorious musically?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwauzzkdys.
That was truly lovely, thank you! There's nothing like a great R&R ballad, and performed with a symphony orchestra WOW,,, really takes me back to the 70s. It's always been a favorite of mine; such a classic!
xx
tal
