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  Living in the era of "Generation Me"

  by campaign of hate in

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  this really got to me today at the wt study.. i am not ashamed to admit, i am part of that "generation".. you get one role of the dice in this life, you got to take what you can now, in order to have a good quality life later.. i agree, we need to help and show love to our fellow man.

  but, not when this becomes the priority above our own needs, wants and aspirations.. welcome to "generation me" wt, this is my time.. peace out..

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  talesin

  They are, of course, recycling an old phrase that someone else invented. My generation, the Baby Boomers, was dubbed the "Me Generation", and I well remember the WTS railing on about the selfishness of this 'generation' when I was young.

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  The "Me" generation in the United States is a term referring to the Baby Boomer generation and the self-involved qualities that some people associated with it. The Baby Boomers (Americans born during the 1946 to 1964 Baby boom) were dubbed the Me generation by writer Tom Wolfe during the 1970s; Christopher Lasch was another writer who commented on the rise of a culture of narcissism among the younger generation.[1] The phrase caught on with the general public, at a time when "self-realization" and "self-fulfillment" were becoming cultural aspirations among young people, who considered them far more important than social responsibility.

  
  

  So, don't feel so bad - they hate ALL young people who want to have a life!

  
  

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  tal

  
  
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  Are we pro-shunning or against it?

  by Simon in

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  just to continue my theme about religious freedom and how we approach criticizing the wts, i've also been thinking about 'shunning'.. i think shunning is the most unifying complaint that most ex-members of religious groups that practice it have in common.

  it is the layer that runs under every other complaint - whatever the reason for leaving it seems "... and i was shunned" can be added to it as the final rap on the charge sheet.. of course it seems like a no-brainer to many of us and we hardly ever stop to really think about it - shunning is bad, the watchtower believes in shunning therefore the watchtower is bad.

  they need to stop it.

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  To address the OP and this:

  For the record, I think shunning is wrong except for cases when the person should probably be removed from society as a whole (making their shunning largely irrelevant) and it demonstrates that any group who does it fundamentally knows their beliefs are weak and cannot stand up to any questions.

  Asked and answered. Even people who commit heinous crimes against humanity (eg, sociopaths who are obviously unhinged) have family members who accept their mental illness and still love them, may communicate with them either in person or through other means.

  Shunning in the JW sense is more akin to (imo) the practice of making someone an outcast, and leaving them alone, in the wilderness, to fend for themselves, merely for disagreeing with the group-think.

  So, on two points, I say the argument is moot, before it gets started, points being;

  a) comparing people who are mentally deranged and need to be isolated for the safety of others, to 'innocents' who are outcast for no good reason, is 'apples and oranges'

  b) even the above 'mentally deranged' usually have family that support and love them.

  
  

  Succinct and to the point. Big scores in the TMS. Just kidding! It's only my 2 pence.
  

  :P

  tal (imagine smiley with sunglasses, I'm TTTC)
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  Don't you just love a great quote?

  by stillin in

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  i have seen a few here on this forum.

  i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".

  charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).

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  And one of his students, Walt Whitman, said this, and it is imprinted on my soul.  From "Leaves of Grass":

  “re-examine all you have been told in school or church or in any book, and dismiss whatever insults your own soul; and your very flesh shall be a great poem, and have the richest fluency, not only in its words, but in the silent lines of its lips and face, and between the lashes of your eyes, and in every motion and joint of your body."
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  Don't you just love a great quote?

  by stillin in

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  i have seen a few here on this forum.

  i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".

  charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).

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  talesin

  And Walt Whitman, a student/contemporary of the great RWE ,,,,,,,

  
  

  “re-examine all you have been told in school or church or in any book, and dismiss whatever insults your own soul; and your very flesh shall be a great poem, and have the richest fluency, not only in its words, but in the silent lines of its lips and face, and between the lashes of your eyes, and in every motion and joint of your body."

  
  

  
  
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  How do Americans feel about Canadians and Britons interjecting their opinions onto hot localized political topics: gun laws, abortion, ect?

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  in addition to the above question, why do citizens of the two above mentioned countries, or other countries, feel the necessity to tell americans how they should interpret the american constitution for localized issues?.

  i fairly much have an idea what the general population in the usa feels in regards to the first question.

  this could be one of the possible reasons cnn piers morgan poor ratings and eventual firing.

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  To answer the OP "Who cares?"  :P  

  
  

  
  

  (JUST KIDDING!)

  
  

  But seriously folks, if Americans want to preach that they are the bestest, and they are running the world ,,,,,,,, well, if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen!  

  
  

  xoxo

  
  I rarely give any opinions about that particular subject in this forum, I mean, it's the INTERNET, why bother?  It's not like we are a close, intimate group, and political discussions can be civil.  Flame wars are so *yawn* ......... 

  
  

  Do I care about America's actions on the world scene?  Hell YAH, what YOUR country does,. affects us all.

  
  

  Do I think it's my business, about your President's and their pecadillos?  Your scandals and race wars?  Nah,,, as long as you keep it at home - HAVE AT IT!  
  
  When you start sending my fellow Canadians to Syrian torturers, yes, THEN I will speak up.  

  
  

  Let Monsanto destroy YOUR crops, let Coca Cola give YOUR kids diabetes.  Keep your cultural imperialism at home, and stop saying you're the "BEST" and the "SMARTEST".  
  

  
  

  When I think of American Exceptionalism, I think .........  Seriously?  Really?

  
  

  lol, and peace, love and happiness to you!

  
  

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  Don't you just love a great quote?

  by stillin in

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  i have seen a few here on this forum.

  i just came across on in a book i'm reading that i thought i would share with you, appropriate to the forum.. "men think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one".

  charles mackay in extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds (1841).

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  talesin

  “The sun illuminates only the eye of the man, but shines into the eye and the heart of the child.”

  
  ― Ralph Waldo Emerson

  
  

  
  
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  American Sniper - courage or cowardice?

  by Simon in

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  the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.

  some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".

  it seems unfair to me.

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  I am speaking to the OP, not having read the subsequent pages.  I downloaded this movie yesterday and it looks to be a good flick.

  Snpers?  Hey. are you a military family?  Then, there should be no questions asked. If you are a WOO HOO AMERICA the land of the brave and home of the free, then shut your mouth.  The Airborne has the best in the world, and they are trained to kill.  It's a fact of your country, your identity in the world community - you are a violent people whose soldiers are trained to kill.  When one of them goes awry, havoc ensues.  

  Live with it.  Deal with it.  Be as loud and proud of your killing skills with a rifle, as you are about your corporate killing skills.  
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  Can't post pictures

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  not able to do so... the posting progress is just stuck and nothing happens.

  first i thought may be the pics were too big.

  re sized them and still nothing... any ideas?

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  talesin

  Using Google Chrome, you just hit the Picture Icon, then select "Choose File" to upload from the picture folder on your pc.  Other browsers may have a different process.

  
  

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  Can't post pictures

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  not able to do so... the posting progress is just stuck and nothing happens.

  first i thought may be the pics were too big.

  re sized them and still nothing... any ideas?

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  Be nice to theists - they are victims of their genes

  by cofty in

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  2. beliefs

  identical twin studies show there is a strong inheritable component to religiosity.

  thomas bouchard studied identical and fraternal twins raised apart and tested them on religious attitudes.. the correlation for the former turned out to be 62% compared to just 2% for the latter.

  his colleague.

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  There is also a strong argument for genetic psychopathy - does this mean that your need to control people's thoughts and feelings is genetic?  Or do you just enjoy mocking religious people and proving you are 'right'?
  
  Just curious.

  
  

  tal