Posts by talesin

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For God/Truth Seekers Only!

jw
friends

for the past three years, my husband and i have been watching these sermons by remarkable worldwide speakers.

the biblical truths we have learnt from their presentations, in such a short period of time most definitely tip the scales compared to the truth the jw.org led me to believe i had for over 20 plus years of my life.

thanks to these videos, we have now found the truth and the truth is jesus christ (john 14:6).

talesin

Umm , I guess that only *certain people* are allowed to ask to keep a thread ON TOPIC. How "big" of you, JWINQUESTION, to ask Cofty to give this new member a bit of time to get comfortable here.

This poster has been a member for 4 days. Cofty and others, do you have such a NEED to convert people to your way of thinking, that you can't allow them to catch their breath and be happy they know TTATT, and have found support, before you attack their ENTIRE belief system?

Why is it okay for you to demand that people stay on-topic on your threads, yet you are exempt from giving others the same respect? Maybe there should be a warning to those of 'faith', that they *will* be persecuted on this site.

Don't you 'get it'? In other contexts, you may be considered a bully.

And if you want the link to YOUR thread, Cofty, where you kept telling people to *stay on the topic*, I will provide it.

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Conversation with my mother-in-law this morning

by StarTrekAngel in

i am skipping the details on how we got to this point.

conversation was calmed and pleasant and while i know she is not the most educated person (she can hardly read), its hard to justify it by saying is a matter of ignorance.

it is definitely something inside her that triggers on that very moment.. me: i don't know where all the money is going.

talesin

This conversation in the OP reminds me of an old joke.

A roofer is teaching his apprentice how to hammer down the shingles. He places the nail in the appropriate place, and says to the apprentice, "When I nods me head, hit it!" He nods his head, and splat! the apprentice whacks him a good one.

It's like talking to a moron - 'does not compute'.

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God & JW can't exist without "evil"

by thedepressedsoul in

i was thinking the other day that so far jw's and god have always needed or relied on "evil" to get items done or taken care of.

almost every bible prophecy and jw teaching would not exist without "evil".. let's take the prophecy of jesus for example, it would not have been fulfilled without evil.

when you think about it, he was a needed evil in order for prophecy to be fulfilled.

talesin

To the OP,

Very true. The concepts of good and evil have been utilized by the powerful to manipulate the masses for ... well, forever1 Have you read "The Prince" by Machiavelli?

Without God, there is no Satan!

Well done! Now, there's some logical thinking that may shake you from your cognitive dissonance.

xx

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

talesin

PS. You are very condescending. That is a JW trait, though, so I understand the mindset and don't take personal offence. :innocent:

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

talesin

Hmm, 'methinks thou dost protest too much' ...

I already acknowledged in my comment that with maturity, I learned to respect my friend's choice, so there is no need for you to justify your choices to me.

You are 16? Or am I in error? That has little relevance to what I want to say, though.

You state that "Everything in life is equal". Well, I hope life teaches you lessons in a gentle fashion, because you have a LOT to learn, whether you are 16 or 60.

Bless-ed be! )O(

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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life

by thedepressedsoul in

the borg's tactics on most jw work.

they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.

it allows them to control every aspect of their life.

talesin

Hi, thedepressedsoul.

My best friend growing up is a double-lifer. I have never understood how a life of deceit can be fulfilling. Always looking over your shoulder, having to have a good memory, hahaha! because you would always be in danger of being caught in a lie.

Truth be told, I resented that person for a long time, because they had their family and I did not have mine. It's funny, because that person was a speed freak in the 80s had a child out of wedlock, and well, a lot of shit that I think is okay - but I got DF'd and lost all my family for what? Playing 'doctor' with my best friend ....

Eventually, I grew up and realized that my double-lifer friend had their own issues to deal with, and I had no reason to be resentful. We all choose our own path, and hell, that friend never did anything to *me*, they just made the choice to do what was necessary to keep in the family.

Power to ya! And, well, as to the consequences --- your screen name says it all.

xoxo

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Does Anyone Know Where This Picture Came From...

by MADMARY in

it couldn't be from a watchtower cover, right???

does anyone know?.

mm.

talesin

To me, the plethora of internet memes has made them, for the most part, redundant. I find these apostate memes pedantic and humourless. Everyone is an individual, and folk will always have different sensibilities. *shrugs*

They do tend to make 'apostates' appear to be mean and bitter, though. And some 'apostates' are mean and bitter. Just like any other group, there are all shades of ex-JW.

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Clergy as Mandatory Reporters of Child Abuse and Neglect

by OrphanCrow in

in the united states, the statutes governing mandatory reporting of child abuse are determined at the state level with variances occurring between states.

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubpdfs/clergymandated.pdf.

the statutes outlined in the above pdf are the statutes by which jw elders are accountable to according to the state in which they live.. candace conti's court case was filed in california and the reporting laws that apply to clergy in that state are as follows:.

talesin

In Canada, the clergy is not protected from the responsibility of reporting. Appreciating the article you quoted, OC, and to further enlighten, here is the url for the Child & Services Act of Ontario, as an example of provincial requirements.

http://www.children.gov.on.ca/htdocs/English/topics/childrensaid/reportingabuse/abuseandneglect/abuseandneglect.aspx

(bold is mine)

Do professionals and officials have any special responsibilities to report?
Professionals and officials have the same duty as the rest of the public to report their suspicion that a child is or may be in need of protection. However, the Act recognizes that people working closely with children have a special awareness of the signs of child abuse and neglect, and a particular responsibility to report their suspicions. Any professional or official who fails to report a suspicion is liable on conviction to a fine of up to $1,000, if they obtained the information in the course of their professional or official duties. [CFSA s.72 (4), (6.2)]
Who does the Act consider a person who performs professional or official duties?
health care professionals, including physicians, nurses, dentists, pharmacists and psychologists
teachers and school principals
social workers and family counsellors
religious leaders, including priests, rabbis and members of the clergy
operators or employees of child care programs or centres
youth and recreation workers (not volunteers)
peace officers and coroners
child and youth service providers and employees of these service providers
any other person who performs professional or official duties with respect to a child
These are examples only. If you are unsure whether you fall into any of these categories, ask your local CAS, professional association or regulatory body. [CFSA s.72 (5)]

Excellent post, OC, and I wholly agree - check out the law in your country/province/territory/state.

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You are simulation and physics can prove it

by Brokeback Watchtower in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chfoo9nbeow.

a little about george smoot.

http://bigbangtheory.wikia.com/wiki/george_smoot.

talesin

The second vid makes me think of Michael Talbot and Holographic Universe.

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Thank God For Disfellowshipping!

by Nicola.threeangelsmessage in

i had the misfortune of being born into the jw faith.

however, i thank god every day that i was disfellowshipped otherwise i would never have found the truth.

good riddance to the watchtower bible track societys false publications, especially that book they claim contains the holy scriptures it is deceitful and full of darkness, and gets darker with every revision!

talesin

Nicola, welcome to the forum! And congratulations on being DF'd ... love the way you put it, as a good thing.

Looking forward to reading about your story.

Just ignore any rude atheists. Some of us (atheists) are just happy you are free of the Watchtower, and don't feel any need to ridicule your faith.

xx

tal :sunglasses: