Posts by talesin

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Best Argument for Atheism - In your view.

by LAWHFol in

if crisis of conscience is one of the top watchtower doctrine killers, what is the coc of theism?.

i'd like to read a book, or other material that does the best job logically arguing for atheism.. i've not read any darwin, however it is my assumption that his focus is primarily on evolution, is this correct?

if you were to recommend one book or a few pieces of reading material, which do the best job of defending atheism, what would they be?.

talesin

I would suggest reading some philosophy. My first year (Philosophy 101) textbook was "20 Questions", and I see it is for sale on Amazon. It's a great book, in that each chapter poses a philosophical question, such as "What is Art?" ... "Is Euthanasia ethical?" ... "Abortion" ... It's a great book - each chapter has essays from Plato to French and in-between! lol, I love to read, love to learn, and this course was my favorite of all my university classes! :D

Examining core issues of human behaviour (ie, philosophy), is a good way to explore how YOU feel about life. I stopped believing in a supreme being when I was a teenager, but didn't really examine my belief system (or lack of one) until my 30s. Taking a philosophy course really gets you thinking!

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Gordon Lightfoot

by RAYZORBLADE in

ok, if you're a canuck, chances you know that gordon lightfoot is about right up there with ol' jehover!.

but if not, nevermind, but i have to admit, i have been a lifelong fan of: gordon lightfoot.. this evening, i took his 'greatest hits' and gave it a listen, and as expected, i was still enthralled with his lyrical genius, and playing abilities.. anyone a gordon lightfoot fan?.

just curious.. all your folks living along north america's "great lakes" keep in mind, next month is the 28th anniversary of the sinking of the "edmund fitzgerald".. that song, by gordon lightfoot is haunting from beginning to end (over 6 minutes).. i personally love: go-go girl in love, bitter green, canadian railway trilogy, sundown, race among the ruins, wreck of the edmund fitzgerald, and well i like just about every damn thing he ever did.. your contributions?

talesin

If you could read my mind, love, what a tale my thoughts would tell!

In the early mornin' rain ........

Sundown, you better take care, if i find you been sneakin' down my back stairs ....

Rainy Day People, Black Day in July, Carefree Highway .......

SO much more than the "edmund Fitzgerald" .. boring song ,imho

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The wisdom of YODA .. and other SW quotes : )

by talesin in

"fear is the path to the dark side ..."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xha3d-musuw.

"size matters not (ahem, and lol) ... for my ally is the force .. and a powerful ally it is ... you must feel the force around you!".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeua5y_cc88.

talesin

"Fear is the path to the dark side ..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa3D-musUw

"Size matters not (ahem, and LOL) ... for my ally is the Force .. and a powerful ally it is ... you must feel the Force around you!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEuA5Y_Cc88

"Do! Or do not. There is no try."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSpx92Xoukk

What's your favorite SW quote? "I have a bad feeling about this!"

:P

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I saw some witnesses today...

by Garrett in

jw
friends

gossiping.

yep, that's right!

so, i'm sitting outside a building, waiting for my martial arts class to begin when two sisters walk down the road leading to the building.

talesin

Well, when people have no life of their own, they will tend to gossip about others. It's so sad, hey? They have NO inner llife.

xo

t

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Education makes you leave God

by FusionTheism in

quote from the watchtower, simplified edition, september 2015, "how can we show that we love jehovah?".

higher education often makes them lose their love for god..

talesin

Exactly. It's the 21st century; it's the age of information. How can you love something that you know is a fiction? Except in the sentimental way that you love Tinkerbell or Santa, even though, as a grown-up, you know they are not real.

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i committed the unforgiveable sin

by 060702015 in

everyday i wake up with knots in my stomach and trouble breathing.

my life continues to go into a downward spiral.

in the past, i had my dependence on god.

talesin

Hi, there, 060702015

I can see you are in a lot of distress! And for good reason. First off, try taking a deep breath........ < breathe in, breathe out > Nice and slow, and do that a few times.

Okay, phew, calm out a bit. Realize that you, in this moment, are okay. You can take a bit of time to settle down and chill.

Now. Yes, things are a mess. The thing is, that messes can get cleaned up. Some take longer than others, but with persistence, and hard work, it gets done.

For the moment, KNOW that you can turn life around and make it better - get through THIS moment. Today. You have support - you are NOT alone. Realize that you matter to people, and not just strangers on the internet.

KNOW that you are important, you are worthwhile, and dammit, it's just not fair! That's understood. Now, consider yourself hugged (if that is ok with you, if not, a firm squeeze to your shoulder!), and also know that it's okay to feel this pain. It's real, and natural.

Next step,,, figure out where to go from here.

xo Be a thriver!

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My Parents Lost Forever?

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

my father served in the second world war.

he served in the south pacific.

he loved his time in the military and my mother was more than supporting.

talesin

I hope you are having some happier moments today!

That advice I gave, was from my former therapist about 9/11. I had seen it in real-time, and many months after, was still having nightmares and such. She suggested that I stop watching the news, as it was triggering me ,,, and it worked! Glad I could pass on that tip to you.

It's a valid thing, to mourn, to grieve. Important to realize, though, that the continued reliving of traumatic events through the media, can have an huge effect on our psychological well-being.

Love and light to you! xx

tal :sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

I'm a student of psychology as well, through 15 years of therapy! ahaha, but I will say that my last 2 therapists said I could hang out my own shingle and do quite well.

So, as to the OP, and interesting comments since~! It's hard to stimulate discussion on a philosophical issue here, because exJWs tend to see the world in black and white. Thus, my comment, Philosophy 101, begin! I can't really contribute to that discussion (been there, done that).

Now, I must wonder why a student of psychology would start such an OP. Two guesses ..... (1) writing a paper and looking for fodder for said paper, and (2) stirring the pot.

Whichever ... or any other reason .. matters not. The question is, have you presented an OP that even begs a question or discussion? Perhaps more clarification is required? Or perhaps you are just lazily starting something up so that you can play word games with people. *grins*

carry on

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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?

by Doltologist in

i can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.

i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.

after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.

talesin

To the OP, I don't get it, either~! Which is why I don't have any contact with them. Zip, nil, nada!

And, haha, jovie world, gotta like that one, I will have to tell my roomie! I call them JoHo's, which I have EARNED the RIGHT to call them whatever I please, and so have you.

xx

tal :sunglasses:

*Ex-JoHo, and born in Jovie World class

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

Well, that clarifies the OP's intent ....... refer to my first answer. Philosophy 101, begin!