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  "We Already Forgive Him" - What Does That Mean?

  by cofty in

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  the children of one of yesterday's shooting have told the media that they have already forgiven the killer for what he did.. dylaan roof has not apologised for what he did.

  he hates black people and probably regrets not killing even more.. what does it really mean to forgive?.

  if the legal system asked the victims relatives what they want done next would they ask for dylaan to go free and unpunished?.

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  This is all so tiresome. Hasn't this horse been beat to death?
  
  *yawns*
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  Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job

  by hoser in

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  i listen to one of these all time in our hall.

  she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.

  i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..

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  DJS

  I am sorry for addressing you in a rude way. That was wrong, and I'm sorry.

  You make a sweeping statement about feminism, which is borne of ignorance. I would encourage you, and others, to research the roots and history of 'feminism' .. from the first wave, which gave us the vote, to the third wave, which eliminated the *rule of thumb*, that enabled men to beat their wives with a stick that was no bigger than a thumb in diameter.

  It is my suspicion that you know little about what *feminism* really means, but that gives me no right to make you look foolish.

  I can only hope that you will seek to educate yourself about these issues, and wish you peace and happiness.

  xoxo
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  Back in the Basement

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. bible

  looks like the faithful jws are back in the basement, the oct 15th wt has this image on page 9. but now the lights have been turned out!

  i guess the persecution is really kicking in if the electric company has shut off their electricity, or the jws are really, really paranoid that the government is gonna get them if they have the lights on!.

  only one guy is smart enough to use his tablet (far right), the rest of the jws are old school, using a lantern to read their bibles in the dark!

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  I wonder how long those tablets hold a charge?
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  Royal Commission into Child Abuse - Australia

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  saw this in the paper today:.

  the jehovah's witnesses church in australia is the latest religious group to come to the attention of the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.. the child sex abuse royal commission will hold a public hearing into controversial christian group the jehovah's witnesses, next month.. the inquiry, to be held in sydney, will hear from people who were allegedly sexually abused within the jehovah's witnesses church in australia.. it will examine how the jehovah's witnesses church and its company, the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, responded to claims of child sexual abuse within the organisation.. a victorian inquiry into how churches handle child sex abuse claims has previously taken submissions from former jehovah's witnesses who alleged instances of paedophilia, sexual assault, blackmail and death threats.. the organisation has 64,000 active "disciples" in australia but has also been described as a cult.. jehovah's witnesses believe their church is the one true religion and all others are wrong.

  they are among a number of religious groups which have been examined by the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse including the catholics, anglicans, australian christian churches and the salvation army.. the jehovah's witnesses australian headquarters has been contacted for comment about the inquiry which is scheduled to begin on july 27.. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-to-appear-before-sex-abuse-royal-commission-20150622-ghue73.html.

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  * bump *

  And wow, just reading the comments. People on this board were making fun of Steven Unthank? He has done so much for our TRIBE's children. I missed that, and can't understand why anyone would do such a thing. SMDH

  Wiki lists only 132 Royal Commissions in Australia from 1902 - 2014. I don't think people outside the Commonwealth realize (generally speaking) what a big deal this is. These enquiries are national headline news. They are nonpartisan, and can uncover a lot of dirt!

  The Australian government has already shown that it will not be cowed by the WTS (thank you, Steven Unthank, for getting the ball rolling), and this could be an huge step forward.
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  The Confederate Flag

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  the latest controversy over the confederate flag just sums up to me the state of dysfunction that exists in american society.. in summary: a white supremacist nutter shoots 9 black people dead in a church.

  he's clearly inspired by the messages of others which the confederate flag is often a symbol of.. it seems like a no-brainer to remove it.

  not only isn't it removed, it isn't even lowered at all as a mark of respect.. and of course now there are the people who want to defend their right to have it.

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  William Tappan Thompson designed this flag. Here's what HE said. (black bold is mine)

  url: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tappan_Thompson

  Although he was from Ohio, during the American Civil War, Thompson supported the Confederacy and its cause, as a resident of Georgia.[1] In 1863, as the editor of the Savannah Morning News he proposed a design that would ultimately become the Confederacy's second national flag, which would be come to known as the "Stainless Banner."[2][3][7][8]
  

  In a series of editorials, Thompson argued:

  As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of theYankee vandals.[6]

  After the American Civil War ended and slavery was abolished in the U.S., Thompson, as a fervent supporter of the Democrats, opposed the Republican Party's efforts in southern U.S. states, as well as opposing the granting of civil rights to African Americans and freed slaves.[1][7]

  I agree with Simon on this one completely. The facts speak for themselves. *shrugs*

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  How strong were you in “The Truth?”

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when you were still asleep in the watchtower organization and had no idea of ttatt.

  what would you have done if you were in a serious accident and all of a sudden you woke up in the emergency hospital room with all the brothers and sisters at your side and your spouse cheering you on to be faithful to jehovah.

  then the doctor comes up to you and tells you that you are about to go into surgery because there is no time to lose and the only way to live is to take a blood transfusion ?

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  I left the Lie when I was 18, and after a few years, had no qualms about breaking any of the JW rules.

  When I was 40, I had a bad miscarriage. I was hemmorhaging (gushing, actually). It was midnight when we got to the Emerg, and the OR didn't open till 7 a.m.. They were trying to wait till morning, instead of calling in an OBGYN to operate in the middle of the night. A blood transfusion was an imminent possibility.
  
  In my drugged-up and confused state, pain, on the drip, etc.,,, I was glad the next day, that my partner was there to sign the permission form. We had discussed it previously (when I made him my NOK), and he knew that I had no qualms - logically - about having a transfusion, BUT

  Even after all those years, the blood issue was so ingrained in my psyche, that when I got out of surgery, I was relieved it was not *me* who signed the permission form.

  It's a strange feeling, bleeding out ... it doesn't hurt,, you just drift off and feel weaker and weaker ... I think it would be an easy death and escape from pain. If I had been JW at the time, it would have been easy to refuse a transfusion while I was in that state, especially with the support of the "Brothers". xx

  Have I said recently, how much I abhor this Death Cult????

  (PS - as it turned out, they were able to slow down the bleeding, and did not give me a transfusion. They only give them when you really NEED them, since HIV.)
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  Why JW marriage is a huge problem for the organization.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  2. friends

  the difficulty of finding a marriage mate is well known for sisters.

  but i would say it's hard for brothers also.

  i was talking to a jw last night.

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  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?????

  Indeed, John Aquila .... and as more women get money and power, we'll see more of *this*.

  
  

  

  
  
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  Does this make me a terrible person

  by Clambake in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my wife has a friend at her kh.

  she is 37 and her friend is 88. i know it sounds kind of strange but they are both the wives of ubm so they kind of stick together.

  my wife is very sincere in this friendship and this lady is a nice person.

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  I think you really needed to get this off your chest, and you are not a terrible person.
  
  And yes, I've lost my inheritance because of the WTS. It was hard to swallow, for reasons of personal circumstance, but good to talk about it. That just hurts inside, and needs to be let out - it's not about the money, so much as what it says about how much your parents care about your future and welfare - especially if you did not get an education because of the 1975 thing. AND if *you* were the good son.. yup, it hurts a lot. I get it.

  So, yeah, you had a thought, and now you can let it go. We often act out our deepest pain on other situations. It was a brave thing to ask that question in a public forum, but ya know what?
  
  I think you got to the real issue, which is feelings about the way you were treated by your own family. Understand.

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  Born Ins Vs Converts

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever feel like born ins were looked at differently than those that were converted?

  i always felt that there was a level of suspicion around those "raised in the truth".

  that we were always suspected of being jws to make our family happy.

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  I was never faced with that because of being the "shining example" (as my mother said after my fall from grace).

  But that makes sense - the JW world is all shiny and new to the converts! They weren't forced to go door-to-door as a child. "Pausing and Punctuatoin" at the TMS is still a learning experience for them. They don't miss Xmas and birthdays that much, because they had that as a child.

  Hey, be proud that you are not brainwashed. It's to your credit that you grew up JW, and never really put on the cloak of the cult personality.
  

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  Royal Commission into Child Abuse - Australia

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  saw this in the paper today:.

  the jehovah's witnesses church in australia is the latest religious group to come to the attention of the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.. the child sex abuse royal commission will hold a public hearing into controversial christian group the jehovah's witnesses, next month.. the inquiry, to be held in sydney, will hear from people who were allegedly sexually abused within the jehovah's witnesses church in australia.. it will examine how the jehovah's witnesses church and its company, the watchtower bible and tract society of australia, responded to claims of child sexual abuse within the organisation.. a victorian inquiry into how churches handle child sex abuse claims has previously taken submissions from former jehovah's witnesses who alleged instances of paedophilia, sexual assault, blackmail and death threats.. the organisation has 64,000 active "disciples" in australia but has also been described as a cult.. jehovah's witnesses believe their church is the one true religion and all others are wrong.

  they are among a number of religious groups which have been examined by the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse including the catholics, anglicans, australian christian churches and the salvation army.. the jehovah's witnesses australian headquarters has been contacted for comment about the inquiry which is scheduled to begin on july 27.. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/nsw/jehovahs-witnesses-to-appear-before-sex-abuse-royal-commission-20150622-ghue73.html.

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  A Royal Commission? Oh ,, hell yeah! That is huge. w00t!