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  JWs are not charitable

  by BashfulAshG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys,.

  i'm just venting here because obviously, i can vent to no one else because i am still in the congregation.. jws as a whole do nothing to help the poor, the homeless, the sick, the hungry, though some individual jws do.

  because they are too busy giving to the gb.

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  talesin

  They have "no natural affection". If memory serves me, that is one of their favorite quotes from the Gospel.

  haha, JWS, I am rubber and you are GLUE! Everything you say bounces off me and sticks to YOU! *sticks out tongue*
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  i feel more confused than ever

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well i know i've been posting a lot of topics like this lately and i'm sorry if i sound whiny or annoying.

  my parents were asking me why i was so upset lately and i ended up just telling them the whole truth.

  i told them i don't believe in god or the bible because i don't have any evidence of anything.

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  talesin

  BlackWolf

  Hoping that a snippet of my personal experience helps you realize, that yes, you can do this! You have lots of support here, and will find some in RL (real life) as well.

  I was 18 when I had the same experience, and my mother immediately told me I had to leave at the end of the month. Mind you, six months earlier, my friend had suicided (gay pioneer), and I had been gravely ill for about six months. Thanks, Mom! (haha) I had a grade X education, and was quite frail. But, I did it! Got a job and an apartment by the end of the month. So, moving on ...

  After about 7 years of those feelings of doom and guilt, I realized that I could not believe in this so-called "God of Love". The straw that broke the camel's back, was a 'shepherding call' by two elders (one was my father, and the guilt trip was heavy, but enough of that).
  
  Know that by that time, I was married, had gotten my GED and working at Exxon, going to university part-time, with a new home and car, and a social life, had the world by the tail!
  

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  So, I said my last prayer to him (well, actually "it", being a fairy-tale entity as all gods are), and it was short. Maybe this will help you. "Dear Jah, you know I am a sincere person and speak with good intent. I cannot believe in these people and what they say. They are hypocrites. If I am wrong, then all I ask is a swift death when you destroy the rest of the World. I will always be a good and honest person, but I can no longer believe in YOU.. In Jesus' Christ name, Amen."
  
  I put it behind me, and never felt guilty again, for living *my* life, for choosing to *not* believe, for being ME.
  
  It's okay, you can do this. You came to the right place for support. I have never regretted my choice to leave the cult.

  xx

  Edit: I *always* forget something - if you are in school, you may want to talk to a guidance counsellor, or a teacher that you really like. When I was in junior hs (grd 7-9), I had two teachers who really tried to help me. Back then, there wasn't much they could do to stop abuse, but they *did* succeed in crushing my parents and the JWS' attempt to censor the assigned reading list, which included A Clockwork Orange by Sir Anthony Burgess - a great book! But nowadays, you may find a really supportive person to talk to, and your parents need never know! : ))
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  Do we have consensus that Mr Jackson was wearing a gold Apple Watch?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i mean, we have discussed mr morris' "rolex" but many also pointed out to the potential for a knock-out.

  i don't think there are apple watch knock outs out there, are they?

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  I would think there is a JW-appropriate explanation that goes something like this:
  
  

  The GB must dress appropriately to be able to present to the "worldly ones" (*snickers*) they must deal with, as representatives of Jehovah's True Organization TM. They must defend Jah's name in court, and deal with Satan's attempts to discredit Jehovah. In order to protect "the flock" from "this wicked system of things", they need to blend in with the "world" in their necessary business dealings.

  There, it's all explained! BB said it more succinctly. *shrugs*

  Edit: An afterthought. What I like to call "The Ruling Elders" in my region, who lived in my circuit, were almost 100% upper middle class. They dressed in tailor made suits, and yes, pinkie rings were in style in the 70s. So why is it such a big surprise that these GB members (ie, the JWS' board of directors) are dressed in expensive (albeit often tacky) attire, and it's found acceptable by the R&F? hmmm....

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  And, mark this, but I totally agree with the Red Dot. Yikes, is it THE END?! *just kidding, Minimus, but yeah, agreed*
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  Anyone seen this new "Bad Association" video at the Convention yet?

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i read on another thread (on another forum) where someone mentioned a truly guilt-inducing, cringe-worthy, "bad association" video that was played at this summers rc's.

  here is how that person described it:.

  "the video about "bad association" was really weird.

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  "... the fact that I had to open my mouth and just prove myself ... i was so disappointed in myself."
  
  That's just what a teenage gurl needs to feel about herself. NOT!

  SMDH
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  Please reach out to Te New Yorker

  by Jonathan Drake in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i have found an article on their website that moved me to contact them.

  i share it here hoping more will contact in a similar vein and maybe we can raise awareness and tear down this propaganda.

  i'm writing regarding an article about jehovah's witnesses and their blood transfusion doctrine, found here:http://tinyurl.com/pxku9dgit is clear to me, reading this article, that it's writer is either profoundly ignorant or profoundly biased.

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  This writer has a long resume of articles, and this is the only one (in three parts) that focuses on JWS. It appears that she has been 'hooked' by their (hahaha) sincerity (PUKE).

  problemaddict2 - I found this story a bit taxing on my belief - a teen JW who is learning to play violin and writes poetry? His family must be spiritually weak to let him engage in such frivolous, non-scriptural activities. YET he is faithful enough to die for lack of a transfusion?

  And then she actually uses a JW 'urban legend' story? Very unprofessional, to my eyes. HUH?

  Watchtower leaders still talk about a case from the nineteen-seventies, in which a hospital in Canada collided with a witness family. In that case, a baby was born with severe jaundice resulting from a condition that causes the destruction of red blood cells. The treatment at the time was to exchange the child’s blood through transfusion. The parents, however, refused; they wanted to try light therapy, which was then experimental, though it has since become the standard of care. When it became clear that the doctors were going to get a court order to require transfusion, the parents, according to lore, smuggled the newborn out of the hospital and drove to another institution, where light therapy was available. Apparently, after the child was exposed to sunlight for several hours in the parents’ convertible, by the time the family reached the second hospital the jaundice had substantially subsided.
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  On the Lighter Side...

  by apostrate in

  1. social
  2. humour

  why are there no jehovah's witnesses in heaven?.

  because god and saint peter are behind the gates saying, "sssshhhhhh!

  pretend we are not in!!

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  Q: Are you one of Jehovah's Witnesses?
  
  A: Hey, buddy, I never even saw the accident!

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  Saint Peter was giving a tour of Heaven to a group of new arrivals, where each denomination had their own large room. As they would pass the rooms, he would identify the groups, such as "These are the Baptists and they are having a church supper" or "This is the Catholic area, and they are playing Bingo."
  
  One room had a closed door and a large sign that read "Do Not Disturb!". As they passed this room, Saint Peter put forefinger to lips, and said "Quiet, please! These are the Jehovah's Witnesses - they think they are the only ones up here!"

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  that's my supply of very OLD JW jokes.

  xx
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  Do video games cause bad behaviour in children?

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my boy is 10 and has got very interested in pocamon cards.

  ( a game way to complicated for me to understand) but i've also noticed it's linked to a computer game, which seems harmless enough but i also noticed advertisements for more violent games appear.. i would value people's opinion on whether, you think video games cause bad behaviour in kids.

  i should mention my kid says i limit his time on these games, much more than other children's parents, and i was thinking of reevaluating that rule.. thanks.. the rebel..

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  Video games, like VLT gambling terminals, set off wonderful chemicals in the brain. The same chemicals that are produced by cocaine (OH JOY, OH BILISS!!) ....

  http://www.theguardian.com/theobserver/2010/mar/21/tom-bissell-video-game-cocaine-addiction

  And on a related note, the story above.

  Yeah, let's pretend ..... What-EVER!

  xx
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  Movies/Books for Cult Survivors

  by Brighid in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  for me, there have always been special movies or scenes in movies that trigger my old jw experience (fiddler on the roof and little mermaid touched me deeply when i watched them as a young jw).

  later as a survivor, it was more donnie darko, thx 1138 themes that struck me in particular.. anyway, looking for suggestions on great movies, books (art of any kind, really) that especially speak to or move you as a jw survivor?

  there are reasons beyond purely entertainment that i ask..

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  talesin

  Oh, Donny Darko, yeah! Maybe The Fisher King or Powder, which I found to be along the same lines. xx
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  Won't get fooled again ...Moon Landing.

  by The Rebel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i was fooled by the witnesses.

  what can i learn from that?

  not to accept things at face value but to seek out opinion and different view points.. hence my question " do you believe man landed on the moon?.

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  The Rebel .... i never doubted the moon landing, although the waving flag is kinda strange, but it is true that governments lie to their citizenry, on a regular basis. Also, the MOON LANDING was part of a bigger operation, one that was known in the 80s as Operation Star Wars (I guess Regan let that one out of the bag).
  
  It's not about exploring space - it's about the strategic placing of satellites to monitor, and weapons to control, any 'situations' that the rulers of our planet feel may need intervention.

  xx
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  Dreaming

  by Sabin in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  friends i have question to ask.

  i suffered with horrific nightmares for along time.

  i`m talking years.

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  talesin

  If you're studying psychology, then you'll recognize the Jungian way of analyzing dreams ... this was the 'path' of one of my psychologists. In this way of looking at dreams (which is mostly agreed, are a way of processing life events), the people or perhaps, other things or animals, are projections of yourself, and/or parts of yourself and your own experiences that take other shapes in your dream processes. By looking at the actions of these 'projections' (for lack of a better word), it's possible to be able to relate to parts of yourself that may be shut down in day-to-day life, for various reasons. That's just one viewpoint, of course, but I hope it's helpful.

  PS. Your dreams are not 'weird', they are just 'yours'. The important thing is, you are firmly on the journey of self-exploration, and that *is* the way to heal. Good for you! All the best. XO

  Edit: No matter how you analyze, and there are lots of resources nowadays, whether through personal research online or at the library, or professionals who have sliding scales, etc., may I encourage you to keep writing your dreams down on paper? It's especially good if you keep pen/pencil and notepaper next to the bed, and get down whatever you can.
  
  All the best, you're on a good path! xx