Posts by talesin

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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post

by StarTrekAngel in

i am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.

i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.

it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.

talesin

Always keeping in mind that, when a person is trying *so* hard to show their intellectual superiority, they are cowering inside. That person is to be pitied, not feared. *shrugs*

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i was just explaining to mrs picard........ never a jw, and not english, how we used to celebrate the harvest festival, when i was 7 and younger, before my parents converted to jw'ism.. i loved to sing "we plough the fields and scatter".

of course, singing such hymns is, to a jw, paramount to apostasy,with the death penalty like punishment the ensued.. how really stupid their harsh rules.. did you have any favourite hymns?.

i think we would all agree, that they beat the pants off the "kingdom melodies".

talesin

haha, love Hank Hill...... and yeah, who doesn't like Collective Soul?

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US TV Show 20/20 Interviews Leah Remini about Scientology - Oct 30, 2015

by TheListener in

jw
friends

tonight on the abc network (in the usa) they will be doing an in depth interview with leah remini who was a scientologist for 30 years.

i saw a preview and there is a lot of talk about shunning.

talesin

She is a brave person. Not only confronting the cult, but bucking a lot of powerful people in Hollywwod.

I'm looking forward to seeing her interview. She seems to be a person who finds it hard to deceive, and speaks truth. GO LEAH!

xx

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Scientology loses Tax Exempt status in Netherlands!

by talesin in

the hague court has made this ruling ......... i searched, and no topic showed up, so hope this is not 'old news'.. if a cult loses its tax-free status, does anybody care?well, yeah!

*pumps fist in the air*.

it's about time.

talesin

The Hague Court has made this ruling ......... I searched, and no topic showed up, so hope this is not 'old news'.

If a cult loses its tax-free status, does anybody care?

Well, YEAH! *pumps fist in the air*

It's about time. Thanks to the Netherlands for getting this ball rolling! One more thing to admire, wow.

http://www.nltimes.nl/2015/10/22/hague-court-deals-blow-to-scientology-tax-free-status/

The Dutch branch of the Church of Scientology has lost its tax status as “public welfare institution”, and the tax benefits that go along with it, in a ruling made by the court in The Hague on Wednesday.
The court decided that the sales of the Church’s expensive courses and therapy sessions are clearly aimed at making a profit, and thus it does not belong on the tax authorities’ charity list.

Would love to see the WTS be scrutinized by the Hague Court.

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Did you like hymns as a jw?

by jean-luc picard in

jw
friends

i was just explaining to mrs picard........ never a jw, and not english, how we used to celebrate the harvest festival, when i was 7 and younger, before my parents converted to jw'ism.. i loved to sing "we plough the fields and scatter".

of course, singing such hymns is, to a jw, paramount to apostasy,with the death penalty like punishment the ensued.. how really stupid their harsh rules.. did you have any favourite hymns?.

i think we would all agree, that they beat the pants off the "kingdom melodies".

talesin

Amazing Grace and the Huron Christmas Carol - haunting melodies.

Clambake - I remember our local band .... they spent about an hour or two 'tuning up' their instruments before they played at weddings and 'get-togethers'. : P I did love the fiddling music, when they finally got started.

t

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Grandparents take disfellowshipped daughter to court to insist on right to preach to four year old

by usualusername1 in

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friends

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jehovah-s-witness-grandparents-ordered-to-keep-faith-to-themselves-1.3282193 .

a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

provincial court judge not to talk about religion in front of their four-year-old granddaughter.. the couple lost their bid for unsupervised access to the girl because they insisted on taking her to worship at their faith's kingdom hall despite the repeated objections of the child's mother.. the girl is identified only as a.w.

talesin

OY - the father was a JW and told his parents about the child 3 weeks after the birth. Then, HE was disfellowshipped.

Mother NOT a JW, nor is she married to the biological father (check the initals!) but let grandparents have visitation until .................

Reading comprehension ...... ack.

It sounds like the grandparents are trying to 'replace' their son, lost to Satan (hahaha) with their grandchild (not hahaha, but manipulative and disgusts me.)

The battle is the culmination of a saga that began when the child's biological dad, L.R., told his parents he had fathered a child three weeks after A.W. was born.
L.R. was "disfellowshipped" from the Jehovah's Witness faith, a type of religious excommunication. He testified that he has little contact with A.R. and B.R. He also pays no child support and has no parental responsibilities.
A.R. and B.R. were determined to have contact with their granddaughter, and the child's mother felt it important for them to be part of their lives. She previously allowed them unsupervised access.

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My First Birthday.....

by The Marvster in

i awoken today and realised immidiately i'm 44 today... and after 3 years of being out, decided to acknowledge my birthday.... i'm off out to treat myself to a big hearty breakfast with cup of tea in the local weatherspoon's by the massive pond full of weird bird-life, later today i'm giving myself a gift of a 90 minute relaxation session in a float tank down by canary wharf in london.... only really have 2 close friends (it's a slow process trusting people agian) and they probably won't be able to see me today, but i'm sure i'll have a belated surprise from them both.... the first thing i did when i remembered was to rush to the computer, connect to the web and put on stevie wonder's 'happy birthday', as i listen to it, tears stream down my face... all those years of my life stolen ' but..... i'm free....'.

talesin

Happy Special Day! and for the rest of your life. :...... freedom! : ))

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Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christians. It's impossible.

by DATA-DOG in

good morning.

i was just checking out the forum and something occured to me.

jws simply cannot be christians.

talesin

D-D and the OP:

That being said, the JWS are far from unique. I can't think of *any* Xtian religion that practices the ways of the early worshippers.

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How Cultish are the JW's?

by xjwsrock in

first off, i certainly agree the jw's are a cult.

but i'm sensitive to black-and-white thinking now.. so, where do they rank on the scale?

think of a cultish religion scale from 0-10.. consider the likes of unitarian universalism vs baptist vs amish vs charles manson.. where do you think jw's fall on the scale?.

talesin

I give them a 10.

The image that really sticks in my mind is that of the child martyrs on the cover of their Awake! (TM) magazine.

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Why Do You No Longer Believe in God?

by Tenacious in

i know this question has popped up from time to time but i really would like to know how you guys, those that no longer believe, came to that conclusion?

was it the wts and all its crap?

was it something you read?

talesin

Though I didn't get to finish High School (as a kid), I loved science, and learned about evolution in school. Also, I questioned how God could LOVE us, and allow us to suffer so much.

When I left the JWS, at age 18, I investigated other beliefs (Xtianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Daoism, etc.), and realized that John Lennon "God is a concept by which we measure our pain" and Marx "the opium of the people" were right. By my early 20s, I was over it. It was an easy transition for me. : )