Posts by talesin

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The money question...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

i am intrigued to know if there is truly any evidence of financial irregularities in the jehovah's witness organisation or if any one or group are raking off funds or benefitting financially...?.

whilst i disagree wholeheartedly with most of their teachings and practices, dogmatism, legalism and superiority complex, i don't honestly think there's anyone making millions at the top.

yes you could say that the gb are comfortably off, don't have to pay bills etc but they do actually get up in the morning and 'work', they aren't going off in private jets to tropical islands or driving bentleys.

talesin

know this has posted before, but can't a non-profit be audited? If nothing else to check their status as a non-profit as not-prophets?

In Canada, non profits (offering receipts for taxes) are required to make their Financial Statements public. In fact, shocking to me, that they still have tax-exempt status in Canada. That would be a great project if anyone is interested in activism - the new Canadian PM comes from, if nothing else, a liberal (albeit privileged) background (and I mean liberal in the truest sense).

It's hard to believe that is not required in the US of A. At the very least, the Financial Statements should be open. I don't know JeffT, I figured you would know - or does it vary from state to state?

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Is ANYONE in charge a real ordained minister? College degrees? Seminary? A real Theological degree?

by WireRider in

and i don't mean that stupid made up shit russell just invented only a 100 yrs ago.

he never passed the 7th grade and declared that the world was too stupid to understand the bible without him.. who do you follow and pore money into the watchtower?.

talesin

My grandfather had his degree in theology, and he was an elder. He is the only one I ever knew. (He became a JW for my grandmother, they married later in life, around 30 YO, so he was an Anglican minister when he met her.)

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One possibility…?

by careful in

tornintwo's recent topic spurred me finally to post an idea i've been thinking about.

i don't see the gb as being financially greedy.

yes, they enjoy numerous perks like having their physical needs met by servants, jetting around the planet, living in a greater degree of comfort than fellow bethelites, getting frequent and sometimes expensive gifts from the r&f, etc.

talesin

I see these people as business men, who successfully climbed the corporate ladder in their field. *shrugs*

Like the rest of the corporate world, executives are estimated to be about 20% sociopath (double that of the rest of the population), and I expect that these men are both ruthless and greedy, as are the CEOs of other destructive corporations (big Pharma, Tobacco and Oil, to name a few).

Remember, this is a publishing company, and like the rest of the publishing world (especially newspapers and periodicals), their business is dying. The internet has forced the WTBTS (TM) to changes its business model. It is most likely bleeding cash all over the place because of this downturn in the publishing world, and the numerous lawsuits and settlements paid out to the victims of their past crimes (imo) involving the protection of child rapists.

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Still feel weird about things....

by FeelingFree in

so i'm loving the fact that my little one gets to be a "normal" child and take part in everything at school.

however i still have that stupid niggling in the back of my head that she shouldn't be doing it and it's wrong etc.

at the moment she is rehearsing for the nativity play and keeps singing the songs at home (she is going to be an angel!

talesin

It is wonderful to read about your little girl, having these fun times and a real childhood. You are doing just FINE, and only 17 months out!

You know, our neural pathways in our brains are just that. Paths that have been well-trodden down. Our system naturally follows those paths, especially after years of indoctrination.

You have been creating new neural paths for yourself. Every time you have that negative, icky feeling, reassure yourself by talking back, something like this: "Hey, I know this feeling, and it is not reality. I *know* this is a good thing for me and my daughter, so go away, negative thought". (In your own way, your own voice, tell yourself "Well done, on the right path!")

You are making a new neural path for your brain. Eventually, the old ways will become overgrown, and you will naturally tread the new path. The one that says "This is fun! Look, see how happy she is. Ah, freedom is grand."

Keep up the good work!

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How Many JWs Really Believe Everything They Are Told?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i think that 80% of jws do not truly believe in what they are taught .

the vast majority stay in because of family, friends, ignorance and a lack of caring about any of the facts regarding the "truth".

many people are lazy.

talesin

I concur. Da Nile is much more than a river in Egypt. Very few JWS are 'true believers', and many are operating on auto pilot. Of course, that is true of our whole culture.

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The money question...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

i am intrigued to know if there is truly any evidence of financial irregularities in the jehovah's witness organisation or if any one or group are raking off funds or benefitting financially...?.

whilst i disagree wholeheartedly with most of their teachings and practices, dogmatism, legalism and superiority complex, i don't honestly think there's anyone making millions at the top.

yes you could say that the gb are comfortably off, don't have to pay bills etc but they do actually get up in the morning and 'work', they aren't going off in private jets to tropical islands or driving bentleys.

talesin

That would be illegal activity. If anyone is engaging in that sort of misappropriation of funds, there will not be a convenient trail of bread crumbs.

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Apostate Boogeyman

by Vidiot in

say your prayers, little dub,and be sure you brush off...all the things you hear of.. if you wont, if you dont,youll be easy prey,when the apostate he comes.. out there, cruelly waging his sneaky tight-pants crusade.... be afraid... hell invade...thats his plan...the apostate boogeyman!.

xsomethings wrong, shades of gray,its been there all day,but you stay anyway..... full of lies, full of greed,mentally diseased,and hes probably gay.... helping in satans kitchen, cooking your faith away (wait, what?)....

dont wimp out... stifle doubt...thwart his plan... the apostate boogeyman!.

talesin

Ha, perfect! I had to play the song on youtube whilst singing your parody. Loving that!

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I'm wonderful and amazing(lol)

by Sawaveh in

my name is matthew fuentesi'm hispanic....half white half mexican.living in wa, moses lake, usa.currently living at job corps for culinary arts.i'm 25 years old, going to be 26 this jan 7th.i do have a belly but it's not super big(job corps food is all carbs or whatever).i have dark brown eyes and hair that is pretty long.

(bangs can reach my mouth).i like talking on the phone and texting.not a drinker or i do not do drugs.longest relationship: 1 year 4 months or something like that.

anything else you'd like to know about me?

talesin

Since you are here, feel free to browse the topics.

Welcome!

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ATT: WARNING

by EJ257 in

please be aware of everything that is happening around the world at this moment in time.

this goes to anyone, ex-communicated, removed, serving, believer and non.

at this point in my observations i have realized many religions/ideologies know there is some sort "end of time" or a transition into a new order of living in this earth.

talesin

I`ll need another fridge just as big..For the Scotch!!..

ACK! I hope you know that chilling the Scotch is a disfellowshipping offence! I'm shocked, and gutted, that you would even consider committing such an egregious act. SMDH

:)

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Science Will Never Contradict The Bible

by Perry in

so claims nuclear physicist

talesin

Love the pic, and it makes a statement about you It takes a lot of love to care for the large parrots, and see them so healthy!

That is the kind of thing that made me doubt religion, as a child. How could "god" allow cruelty to animals? As a lover of parrots, you know what cruel fates are dealt to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of black market birds.

How do you reconcile such horrible things, with a god of love and kindness/ I am not being sarcastic - it was one of the main reasons that, even as a child of 10 or 11 , I could not truly believe in a god of love.

So, I am curious to know, does that not give you pause?

Thanks.