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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  Why repost the same thread 10 minutes later?
  
  
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  Good books to read?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i read crisis on the conscience and i am about to start, "who wrote the bible?

  does anyone have a list or great books to read for anyone searching for the real truth?

  i've only ever seen the world through a jw lens and i am excited to see what other view points are out there!

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  There's a really good Philosophy textbook called 20 Questions. It's available on Amazon, or you could check with any University bookstore or message board and get a cheap used one.

  It's a really good start, and as a text, gives questions for pondering after each section (yes, there are 20 questions/sections).

  EDIT 'cause this disappeared.

  You may also want to check out Dr. James Penton's books. He was a born-in, strong JW family. First book is while he was a JW, other writings are after he left. He writes about JW history.

  
  While still a member, he wrote Jehovah’s Witnesses in Canada: Champions of Freedom of Speech and Worship (1976), a history of the religion's struggle for religious freedom under Canadian law, in which he claimed that much of the political and theological attacks on the Watch Tower Society had been grossly unfair. He subsequently appeared on a national current affairs television program in Canada defending the religion's doctrines and denying its leaders were guilty of false prophecy.[11] The book gained brief mentions in the society's magazine The Watchtower (quoting a Toronto Star review) and three years later in a Yearbook article about the Witnesses' history in Canada, although Penton later wrote that he found it curious that the society refused to quote directly from it or otherwise mention it in publications or conventions. "As a result," he wrote, "some Witnesses manifested direct hostility towards it. On occasions I was openly criticized by particularly narrow Witnesses with 'trying to make money on the brothers' or 'trying to make a big fellow out of myself'."[12]
  He began work on Apocalypse Delayed: The Story of Jehovah's Witnesses soon afterwards, but halted his research and writing in 1979 after developing concerns over what he viewed as a growing punitive response of the religion's leadership to doctrinal dissent from within its ranks.[3] He resumed work on the book after his expulsion and it was published in 1985. In 2004 he published Jehovah's Witnesses and the Third Reich: Sectarian Politics under Persecution, which highlights what he claims are discrepancies between the religion's official history of its opposition to Nazism during World War II and documented facts. Historian Detlef Garbe, director at the Neuengamme (Hamburg) Memorial, criticized Penton's "new theory" that in the 1930s the Watch Tower Society had "adapted" to National Socialism's anti-semitic aggression. Garbe suggested Penton's interpretation reflected a "deep-seated aversion" against his former religion and that "from a historiographic viewpoint Penton's writings perhaps show a lack of scientific objectivity".[13]
  Penton has also edited two journals, written five articles about Jehovah's Witnesses and also wrote the Canadian Encyclopedia's entry about the religion.[14]

  Enjoy!

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  Condescending theist tries to comfort fellow exjw's by telling them life isn't worth living without Sky Daddy

  by cappytan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this guy took over the exjw meetup.com group i follow and just sent out this email to all of us.to all members : i stepped in as an organizer to save the group in the hopes of connecting with other believers.

  it appears that after leaving jehovahs witnesses you all have given up your promise to spend the rest of your lives serving god.

  that now your free to just do whatever you want!

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  There's some religious guy who started a bunch of exJW groups a few years back on facebook. Examples: Ex-JW's From Maine, Ex-JW's from Atlantic Canada, ad nauseum. Turns out he was recruiting for his church (imo). I don't belong to any groups about JWS , but I do look in on some of the open ones if something in a friend's feed catches my eye. He is still VERY active in the exJW community ........ and I'm not sure he's even an exJW himself.

  Wow, some of my disappeared - so, moral of the story is, beware of poseurs who are just trolling for 'lost sheep'.

  xx

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  J.W. Women Should Stop Wearing Mascara!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wtbts/ org dictates to its subservient followers what constitutes a bible truth/principle and what does not.

  example: it-1 p. 319 birthday - ".....there is no indication in the scriptures that faithful worshipers of jehovah ever indulged in the pagan practice of annually celebrating birthdays.

  the bible makes direct reference to only two birthday celebrations, those of pharaoh of egypt and herod antipas.

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  All women should stop wearing mascara. It's not healthy to wear gluey substances so close to your eyes - think about it. "But it's been tested on animals, it's safe!" Yet another reason to boycott it - and by the way, you actually trust cosmetics companies? BA HAHAHAHA! Okay, then, but back to my script. That's only common sense. to refrain from putting chemicals so close to one's EYES. Doesn't mean people will *do* it.

  But what you are talking about was most likely kohl, which does not cause physical harm to one's eyes when it is used to darken the surrounding skin.

  :P

  ( Searcher, just injecting a bit of off-the-wall levity, no insult intended! : D )
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  Privacy

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i need some advice guys.

  how do you get people to mind their own buiseness without coming off as rude?.

  i was invited to a jw gathering last night.

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  I answer inappropriate questions with my own "Are you a cop, or writing a book?" mwah haha!

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  Samuel Herd: a woman saying "if she were a man....." is borderline being a homosexual

  by Khaleesi in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not sure if this was posted before... but apparently for the wt a woman's smaller cranium than a man's shows she was designed to be in submission to the man!!

  unbelievable he dared to say such things!.

  https://youtu.be/wqzc2m8_mba.

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  steve2

  This vid is Part 2. On the youtube channel (My Plastic Microphone), the description under Part 1, is this.

  Published on Aug 2, 2014
  Governing Body member Sam Herd gives a talk titled "The Theocratic Value of our sisters" and fun for all is to be had!

  I hope this is helpful.

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  Reveal News: How Jehovah’s Witness leaders are responding to child abuse scrutiny by Trey Bundy

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-jehovahs-witness-leaders-are-responding-to-child-abuse-scrutiny/.

  by trey bundy .

  december 14, 2015 .

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  I've been listening to some of Reveal's reports since your last thread, BA. This is an investigative journalism centre with a long history and many awards. Let's hope their focus on the JWS leads to some recognition that will put one of these reports in the public eye - if one of these wins an award, millions may hear it~!

  Thanks for all your great work.

  xx

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  Need to know when the next apostate bashing article comes out

  by outsmartthesystem in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so.....the court has updated binding recommendations to include the following:.

  "each parent shall ensure that no other person or entity disparages, criticizes, or condemns the other parent in the children's presence, whether it is directly, indirectly, specifically or broadly stated, or articulated in any form - action, illustration or words.

  each parent has an affirmative responsibility to shield the children from this sort of behavior.".

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  "Anoints Oub's head with oil"

  (sorry. no foot washing) :P
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  Bethel should be considered bad

  by dbq407 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from what i was told, we don't celebrate birthdays because the only two times it is mentioned in the bible, bad things happened.

  so if the wt wants to set standards by the "two bad things" rule, then why do they use the name bethel?

  i've read two instances in the bible where bad things happened there.

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  I know 2 bad things happened in FS. One sister got attacked and hospitalized by a Newfoundland dog (now if that's not Satan ... ) and another got threatened with a shotgun (and this is Canada, peeps!).

  PROOF that Satan is behind the door-to-door ministry!

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  If you like dark humour, with an atheist twist, this will make you bust a gut. The Book of Job, by DarkMatter2525

  by talesin in

  1. social
  2. humour

  my room mate just introduced me to the darkmatter2525 channel on youtube.

  hilarity ensued.

  enjoy .

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  True! 2+2=5

  MY friend was saying "You should watch the Samson vid." haha, I guess it's a good one, too. "The Bible stories retold."

  hahahaha!