So don't feel bad. It's only natural. xx : )
talesin
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Have we become what we despise so much?
by Tenacious inthe majority of members who tend to join this forum have been hurt possibly even traumatized sometimes to the point of wanting to end their lives.
upon joining the forum, new members are welcomed with open arms, welcome messages start pouring in, "likes" are freely given, a false sense of security is promoted where a member is free to speak his mind without having to worry about the wt gestapo.
again, similar to how potential converts are welcomed and "love bombed" upon entering a kh for the first time.
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talesin
Actually, if you can step outside the box, it makes a lot of sense. The cult exit does not ensure immediate healing, and JW traits can linger for life. The need to be 'right', jamming your opinion down others' throats, condescension; all these and more are JW traits that are deeply ingrained.
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Umbertoecho here.
by umbertoecho inhello people.. i'm tired and a bit sick at the moment but i can't let anyone think that this is going to go away.... i am able to tell you a few things in order to prevent any confusion in the minds of those who are thinking that nothing will come of this arc;that nothing will effect the wtbts in america and other places.. i have been there and given my testimony.
helen milroy and her assistants were there along with another group of people who are there to lend assistance if you crack up at any time during or after the hearing.
i did not crack up but can see how this happens.. security is tight and anonymity is sacred to them as they want to protect all who come forward.
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Yes, kaik, it all leads one into the other ........... very sad. Just the whole 20th century, to me. I had more hope for this century. Perhaps not in my time, but things *must* change. Globally.
barry , democracy. hmm - debatable imo, but I see why you would think that.
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Smoking, drugs, sex with same sex, fornication and drunken recklessness most times.
I know, right? Most of my pioneer friends were having a freakin' blast! I was just too 'goody-two-shoes' to fit in. : D
Thats the problem with society today. Everyone has a different definition of "morals". No wonder the world has gone to hell in a hand basket. Someone or something has to set the standards. No one knows right from wrong anymore.
Yup. those crafty JWS! Preaching one thing, and then leading a whole 'nuther life in secret! Each one of them seems to have a different *private* definition of morals. They really need to get it together, set some standards, and police themselves! :D
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Lurkers: A truth is either true, or it isn't. There is no in between.
by cappytan intruth is absolute.
there is no such thing as 2=1 or 1=2.. if one starts out with the equation 2=1, one has already failed.. truth = truth.
you cannot change whether something is truth or not.. when the organization teaches one thing as a truth (ex.
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Phew! Glad I only mentioned the sun! : D
To tell the truth, couldn't help but think of the Hemingway tome, The Sun Also Rises. Why do men always wince when I bring up that book? :confused: -
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How to remove a thread?
by Simple Minds inhi i am new to posting on this forum, i posted my first post today .
some people are concerned i may have shared too much in my post and are worried this could get me in trouble.
saying that, if the elders are searching on here, there is a chance that my letter could be found, and my comments used to incriminate me.
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talesin
Too late to edit (you have 30 minutes to edit comments), but check your messages ... look up, right hand corner, there is an envelope. That is your mailbox.
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Oh, I have a friend who escaped from another "lovely" Muslim country - it's called Albania.
Yes, she escaped and has the bullet wound scar to prove it on her calf. She literally ran through the woods, escaping border guards, to flee an arranged marriage. What an amazing person she is!Drita, love you woman! xo
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Last time Europe had really any chance was in the 1990's benefiting from the end of the Cold War, but Islamization of Europe put the end of it.
I have to disagree, that it was the Stock Market Crash, wasn't that 2009 or thereabouts? Greece and its debts? Etc. I do recall that in 2010 Iceland told the World Bank to stuff it, overturned their own government, and issued warrants for the arrest of their own bankers. And theirs is the economy that is doing the best, is it not?
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To the OP, I really think the "Left" is confusing Religion with being Brown - that's just my 2 - the 'average Joe' fears that taking a stance against militant Muslim acts will turn into another race war - isn't that what happened in Europe already? I have friends who were casualties of that war (Bosnian vs Serbian). That was a Caucasian war - no brown people involved.
I agree that being moderate, liberal, does not necessitate endorsing yet another hateful, destructive religion that is bent on world domination.
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Christian Family Gets 5 Children Taken Away by Gov't for Teaching God Punishes Sin
by GodZoo inchild welfare services in norway have reportedly removed five christian children from their parents' home and placed them into foster care after the parents were accused of radicalizing and indoctrinating their children with christianity.. according to the british-based christian institute, norway's child protection services, known as the barnevernet, seized the three sons and two daughters of ruth and marius bodnariu in mid-november.. .
although the family wasn't quite sure at the time why their children were being taken away from them, their lawyer discovered that the parents were being charged with christian indoctrination.http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-family-gets-5-children-taken-away-by-govt-for-teaching-god-punishes-sin-151693/.
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kaik, yes, isolationist. I remember looking at immigration years ago, and learning that a Canadian would not be welcome. And the government-assigned names, etc. The Scandinavian countries have similar geography to Eastern Canada, and a heritage of 'love of nature' (at least, that was my understanding). My natural curiosity and urges to travel meant looking up "Norway" in the encyclopedia was a MUST. (pre-internet!)
I readily believe what you say (especially after googling myself) in your comments here. It does reflect how I could 'see' that culture going.
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Lurkers: A truth is either true, or it isn't. There is no in between.
by cappytan intruth is absolute.
there is no such thing as 2=1 or 1=2.. if one starts out with the equation 2=1, one has already failed.. truth = truth.
you cannot change whether something is truth or not.. when the organization teaches one thing as a truth (ex.
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The danger in absolute thinking is this: current conventional wisdom, or 'truth', may be proven to be wrong. (eg, flat earth, inferiority of races). I think that, purely speaking, it's okay to ask "Can truth ever be absolute?" But as someone said, there is no need to be pedantic (I *so* agree, haha, and not just for this thread). And lest we verge on the edge of a (horror of horrors!) philosophical debate ...
For the sake of argument, with respect to the OP, and with common sense in mind, why not agree that there are certain 'truths' that most people can accept as infallible. EG, the sun will rise, death is a certainty, gods are human constructs, etc.
Let's enjoy a valuable discussion, and refrain from getting bogged down with semantics.
I think, AA, this is a good point.
Truth is absolute in the sense that it does not change depending on who is talking. Opinions do change depending on who is talking.
Truth should not be subjective.