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  Does the WT attract needy dysfunctional type of people?

  by William Penwell in

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  2. experiences

  in your personal experience, do you think that the wt attracts needy types of people?

  over the years, my experience is that they do attract very needy, insecure, dysfunctional, types.

  i had an acquaintance that i just basically cut off.

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  talesin

  Yes, and I would add that needy people are often narcissistic, and always passive-aggressive. *

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  * see "Holier Than Thou, subpara. Shunning"
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  And that, menfolk, is called 'solidarity'.

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  LoveUni - 'sexist pig" Shocking. And that's no joke. I am guessing you are Australian, because that's the last place I heard that slur used. (not since the 80s) Tell them to take a long walk off a short pier.
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  Wow I love the dialogue that was prompted by my request. The fact that these conversations are happening in the exjw community is fantastic!

  Lb, that was my intent.

  On page 1, I meant to be provocative, in the hopes of sparking meaningful discussion. It was surprising, how quickly my comment received the expected response. This issue needs to be discussed; the air needs to be cleared, and a continuing dialogue established. Looking forward to your collaborative video analyses / commentaries.

  I've just now returned, and read a few comments; enough to say, "Mission Accomplished".

  TD, well said, all of it And this: Yes, patriarchy = oppression of ALL poor (ie, working classes, peasants, serfs, or whatever term one chooses to use). Picture an inverted pyramid with 1% at the top, and children of poverty at the bottom. That is the core issue. Does the problem lie with the bourgeousie?

  It always surprises me when Brits don't get it. I could speculate that recognition of class distinctions as a cultural ethos may lead to what could be described as a laissez faire acceptance of the status quo. Here in Canada and the USA, we like to think we have freedom of choice, and no ruling class, which is equally specious. Passive acceptance of the status quo, or living in the fantasy that is the American Dream - I choose none of the above.

  Xan, Indeed. Don't let it get you down. I noticed that, 'cry foul they dd not. Hmmmm?' (said in my best Yoda voice). Gotcha smilin', right? That's because you were absolutely spot-on. It's why I chose not to engage.

  Hi fives to you both, sparrowdown!
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  TV / Movie Clips That Summarize JW.org Life

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is just meant to be a fun topic.. what are some tv and movie snippets that summarize the conformity and extremism of watchtower life in general?.

  i found this trailer for the giver to be dead on :-).

  it shows what happens when you start to openly question the organization and its policies.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etspwr5deek&feature=youtu.be.

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  I just watched the movie, and will be reading the book soon (it's on my short list). Le Petit Prince

  "I will grow up, and I will never be a grownup like you!"

  That sums up my life's philosophy
  

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odBe4A-wHSg
  
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  JW Brothers

  by Festus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there is a group called jw brothers in facebook.

  somebody has posted an article that catholic church has covered up child abuse.. http://www.myfoxboston.com/news/national-content/catholic-bishops-not-obligated-to-report-clerical-sex-abuse-vatican-says/72976327.

  this is what somebody had posted as reply:.

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  Jon Leason "Jw brothers you shouldn't be sharing this post. We know who controls the media.. please remove."

  
  This is the same excuse they used when confronted with the UN library membership. Even when given the link to the actual documentation on the UN site.

  
  

  steve2

  
  I'm sure that "brother" Leason shall be obeyed. "We know ..." Now that, gives me the shivers. So, so happy I did not submit to the JWS' culture of fear and hate.
  
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  Thier new Bible translations funny Scripture and how stupid they are.

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you go to their bible at genesis 18: starting at verse 3 you will read that abraham sees jehovah yep sees him, with a couple of other men (angel's) then talks to him about getting water to wash his feet.

  then he runs to sarah and talks to her about preparing food for jehovah.

  so let me get this strait abraham sees jehovah face to face, jehovah has feet and apparently likes to eat human food too.

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  crazyguy - I live on campus, and end-of-term yard sales and freebies are legend in this neighbourhood.

  One of my good 'finds' last summer - was a bible. The Complete Bible: An American Translation, Smith & Goodspeed.

  It's leather-bound and the paper is beautiful. I saw it in the box and thought 'hmm, I don't have any Bible at home, in case I want to look something up (yes, it's online, but I love books and enjoy the tactile satisfaction that a good book provides). It was free, so "Yoink". It includes "The Apocrypha". I've leafed through it, has "Book of Maccabees" and others.

  It seems to be an interesting translation.

  Edit:
  Genesis 18

  "The Lord appeared to him at the terebinth of Mamre, as he was sitting at the doorway of his tent ..."
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  I had a bizarre dream the other night

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  quick recap.

  i'm 44, been df'd about a 10 months.

  got baptized when i was 18, in and out of the borg for years due to guilt.

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  What an excellent dream. Some dreams are about the mind processing. Our brains are active during REM sleep, 'dream time'. And your thoughts upon waking up - so true, what?

  Some people remember a lot of dreams, some not. OMG, you're normal. *grins*

  Good stuff!
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  Well, Happy Sunday to you. That's great news. Cheers
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  2016-2-17-Destroy Previous S-77 Forms!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  these numbers and letters:--gbr659967--are the only identifying markson this boe..the "informant" who sent it said:.

  "this letter came through the congregation inbox and so hasn't got theusual identifying information.

  the name of the file is probably thebest way to identify it.

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  Sugar, understood, and thanks for the reply. I thought you may be new to the issue, and wanted to clarify the possible importance of this particular document.

  In the broader sense, there may be a lot of seemingly unimportant documents, and/or debate about the history of the JWS. These things have meaning because it is 'our' history, and the WTBTS has rewritten the facts. There is a group of people that works with Atlantis! to ensure that these documents are not lost forever. Younger people who are finding their way out of the cult often have no knowledge of how the religion started, and what happened in the past.

  You are so right about the pompous self-importance of the JW organization. Glad to have you here - it's always good to see people who have never been JWS. One step in getting rid of the cult, is public awareness. Many people think they are harmless. Take care.
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  The Miracle Wheat Episode: Summary

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this "miracle wheat" article is getting too long!

  hahaha.

  but here is the short description (without the proofs and many newspaper and wt articles in full, which will come in the pdf version):.

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  talesin

  ILoveTTAT2 - haha, so I guess they really were birds of a feather, Barnum & Russell. : )