I was pioneering with a group of oh, about a dozen 17-21 YO kids. Some from there, and some of us, from away. It was crazy busy, working at a hardware store mixing paint, making up hours (I was SO TIRED), got sick a lot, and met some 'interesting people'. I didn't really think about Armageddon, didn't believe it. I just tried to win my parents' love and approval. The way things transpired, I'd say I was severely 'disillusioned', not with doctrine, but the characters of my friends and elders. This could NOT be the Truth with a capital "T".
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THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75
by Terry innone of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.
i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.
the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.
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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves
by Robo Bobo ini came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.
you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.
in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.
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talesin
He is wack-a-doo.
I have a cousin who will write newspapers, or perhaps bloggers. Lester is not a very common name.
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THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75
by Terry innone of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.
i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.
the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.
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talesin
My pioneer buddy suicided in 1976 spring. He was 17. I never went back to the kH,
A couple of years later, was DF for, I guess, apostasy. I told them I did not believe it. Their reply? "You're fired!" j/k They considered that I would be DF if I refused to return to the collective. No, thanks. Age 20, I was DF and alone.
So yeah, i was baptized at 14, and not 3 years later (after a month spent in Quebec, SP recruitment, uhh, no thanks) 'serving where the need is greater', and Staying Alive till '75! I hated every second of pioneering, and was learning a lot about the true nature of my 'brothers & sisters'. Shocking.. Hey, i was 17! And a very good girl. ; )
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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves
by Robo Bobo ini came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.
you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.
in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.
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talesin
jookbeard, I can only find his replies. and not the comments. I might know 'Lester', too. Did he delete your comment? I was looking forward to reading that. -
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Jehovah's Witnesses: A Clear Decline
by Hadriel init is rather clear that the internet is to put it mildly, wrecking the world of the watchtower bible & tract society.
if not for foreign language i doubt there would be much growth at all.. digital trends and analytics are very real.
i live this analytics world i assure you to some degree you can take it to the bank.
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talesin
Yes, I was going to ask about the graph, too, but someone (Steve2) already had. Thank you both.
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What's the point?
by punkofnice ini mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.
since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.
kaput.
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talesin
Yessiree Bob! I watched The Persuaders! last year. No TV but lots of stuff online. : )
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What's the point?
by punkofnice ini mean, i don't want to be miserable or anything, but what's the bloody point of it all?.
since i left the watchtower cult, i have come to realise that god cannot possibly exist...and if a god exists...god is indifferent to humankind as the least.. in 100 years time i'll be gone.
kaput.
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talesin
Mrs. (Emma) Peel. We are not worthy! One of my favorite shows as a kid. (Oh, and wasn't it John Steed? He was cool.)
Also the first Mrs. James Bond, Diana Rigg, I love her. Just had to comment on that.
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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves
by Robo Bobo ini came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.
you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.
in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.
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talesin
zeb, he's playing with the numbers. From the John Howard Society in Alberta (I looked this up earlier, before I commented, just to confirm his gross distortion of the facts). It could be 15% after only 5 years, keeping in mind that these statistics involve those who were caught and reconvicted. It naturally follows that not all are caught.
[Edit: Children don't matter to the Watchtower, and he is a zealot.]
http://www.johnhoward.ab.ca/pub/C24.htm
A long term follow-up study of child molesters in Canada found that 42% were reconvicted of sexual or violent crime during the 15-30 year follow-up period.
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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talesin
Yes you are. The 7% figure refers to the NAS and comes from a different study.
Okayyyy..... that is no explanation, not how the bar graph reads, but I have no horse in this race.
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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talesin
It's hard for me to believe that any scientist believes in g-d. Does . not . compute.