Posts by talesin

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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

talesin

Xan, thank you so much, I barely survived. If I had gotten together with my teen 'crush', who knows? He came to visit the shop I worked in about 20 years ago, and still a lovely person with those beautiful blue denim eyes. I remembered when he married; I was already faded 2 years, but not yet DF, and he introduced me to his fiancee at the last convention I attended, at the Montreal Olympic Stadium. If I'd married him, I might still be a JW, who knows?

I'm glad you and your guy left together, and hopefully much healing has taken place. xx

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WEIRD. . . Dick Gregory talks about the "killing" of PRINCE

by Terry in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itjo7voxe8w

talesin

Dick Gregory is a legend, and one of the great American comedians and activists. He is in his late 80s, and seems to be having some issues with dementia in the past few years. IT's sad to see him losing it, and I give him RESPECT. He is old, and a bit confused, and that's what happens to some people, no matter how brilliant. That's why Smiley is taking in every word, I would think. Out of respect for this great man who may be rambling and a tad of a wing-nut in his old age, but props for past deeds. x tal

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Geoffrey Jackson - "Satan, don't take my hair!!!"

by OrphanCrow in

cars, plasma tvs, shopping malls...all come from satan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ivkrnxzzes.

talesin

lol @ sparky, love W&G!

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On a more serious note, this is the lying scumbag that perjured himself to the ARC. I detest these child-abusing hypocrites with a passion that burns clear and bright! And it keeps getting brighter. : D

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Interesting Prince quote from current Entertainment Weekly (yes, another Prince thread)

by OutsiderLookingIn in

this weekend, i was reading my cousin's hard copy of the entertainment weekly prince tribute (may 6, 2016 issue) and came across a very interesting quote.

ew journalist leah greenblatt, who conducted the last major magazine interview with prince in august 2015, recounted him saying: "religion is beautiful as long as you don't become a fanatic and start shutting other people out, other ideas.

prince may have still been a jw, but it sounds like he had a very open-minded approach to it.

talesin

I find that interesting. It had occurred to me several years ago, when he and his JW wife (2nd wife) got divorced. Was it a 'scriptural' divorce? At the time, and since, I have wondered if he became disillusioned with the JW. In the past couple of years, he seemed to be getting more like his Purpleness again. My room mate and I had several conversations about it, and I had hope that the JW had lost their stranglehold on him. I guess we'll never know ...

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Connect with people in Nova Scotia?

by Nicodemus Kathoplizo in

jw
friends

my family and i have recently awakened after watching the arc, reading coc etc.

we are feeling quite alone out here, and are looking for a group for bible study.

we now identify as christians, and are looking for some association with exjws out here.. thanks.

talesin

Hi, Nova Scotian here. Check your personal messages. At the top of your screen, there's a green box with a white envelope, and it should show the number of PMs you have. Click on that envelope.

Welcome to the board, it's good to see a fellow Bluenoser. : )

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All Gays Are Perverts

by Coded Logic in

"scientists may never resolve exactly how much of a role nature and nurturing play in same-sex attraction.

but one thing is clear: all humans are born with the tendency to succumb to wrong thinking and inclinations.

--romans 3:23. a youth who desires to please god must therefore conform to his moral standards and shun immoral behavior, though doing so may be agonizingly difficult.

talesin

To address the OP. Yes, I left because of an incident with my pioneer friend, who was secretly gay (1970s). He hung himself because he was gay and a JW. "Where would he go?" :' (

Though I hated being a JW and didn't believe in their teachings, I was a 17YO born-in pioneer, pretending to be happy 24-7. And living in a deep, life-long depression. I know why the caged bird sings. [reference Maya Angelou]

Less than six months later, I left the KH, never to return. I could not deal with these smug hypocrites who preached that my buddy was 'of Satan' - so much so, that he felt he was worthless and ended his life - yet, they were fornicating and getting drunk and lying. I've been a supporter of the LGBT community all my life. It was a proud day (2004?) for me, as a Canadian, when we recognized same-sex marriage. And I don't often claim pride in my country. xx tal

PS. to dubstepped - my dad used to get mad at me for 'defending those homos'. It makes me very sad, that he has such horrid feelings for 'other'. x

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Children, you can go to Bethel when you grow up!

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/caleb-sophia-visit-bethel/.

for those who haven't watched this, enjoy!.

hang in there for the very last comment from caleb!

talesin

Too late to put this in my comment, but RIP to FAO Schwarz, I'll not see it now. NYC, wow! Yes, it's the SUPER toy store in the film "Big".

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The two paths of exJWs

by Simon in

it's easy to think of exjws as being a single amorphous group but the more i think about it, the more i believe that there are two distinct sub-groups and wonder if you agree.. there are those who believe and those who don't.

i know that seems obvious but let's break it down a bit more.

there are those who don't and never believed and some who are looking for a religion to match their beliefs.. i used to think this split would be between born-ins and converts but of course it's possible for born-ins to be believers although i suspect that many, like with other faiths, do so simply because they have never experienced anything else or made a conscious choice.

talesin

I don't understand being born in and staying in. By the time I was 12, I hated it. Being told how to think, told to 'respect my elders' aka rapists in secret, watching liars preach from the platform after being loaded drunk the night before, going door-to-door, no more school (!) ... and especially, those book studies with the crazy prophecies. The fear of retribution and guilt were big pressures, I'll admit, but I never believed all that gobbledeegook, twisted rendering of interpretation of Daniel and Revelations ............ idiotic to my logical Spock-brain. I did get baptized because of pressure - when you are not in school, and no outside contact, and being abused at home, the pressure is immense. I could have chose marriage to a 'suitable' mate, but the prospect did, and still does, make me nauseous. Rejection and constant disapproval and abuse, was too much for my already-battered psyche to bear. So at 14, I got dunked. At 16, I left the first time. It only lasted a few months, due to poor health. At 18, I left for good, determined to be FREE. Nope, I just . don't . get it.

That being said, I consciously work at empathizing with other folk, and respecting their journey. Perception is just that, and each person's perception is unique and valid, as is their experience. That's called FREEDOM!

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Children, you can go to Bethel when you grow up!

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/caleb-sophia-visit-bethel/.

for those who haven't watched this, enjoy!.

hang in there for the very last comment from caleb!

talesin

I remember the vacation to NYC with my parents' friends and their son, and visiting Bethel. I was 14, and of course, climbing up that metal stair that was part of the ginormous printing press was cool. It was quite amazing, I have to admit, seeing those magazines roll off that huge machine. That's all I really remember - the press room and having lunch. For the most part, I wanted to be elsewhere.

We weren't going to anything I chose: MOMA and the Guggenheim, Central Park, Bloomingdale's, FAO Schwarz, and of course, the NYC library (yes, I was a geeky kid). And that was just my personal 14YO wish list.

We did go to Radio City Music Hall and I saw the Rockettes and the hugest freakingly awesome pipe organ was playing. I loved that, and we watched "Huck Finn" on the big screen.

Bethel? It was a big snooze, and certainly not a fun day out. (And from what I've read of others, I think we got the 'special tour', and yes, through 'connections')

Every JW kid's dream vacation. *puke*