Posts by talesin

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

talesin

To the OP:

You could try the Universalist Unitarian Church - they are ecumenical; so much so, that even atheists can belong. They have a church here, and are very community-oriented, and a nice bunch of folks.

I don't attend any church, nor do I want to. If you're looking for community, and whatever you mean by 'spiritual', one of those, the UU's might fit.

Their Seven Principles:

1st Principle: The inherent worth and dignity of every person;
2nd Principle: Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;
3rd Principle: Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;
4th Principle: A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;
5th Principle: The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;
6th Principle: The goal of world community with peace, liberty, and justice for all;
7th Principle: Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part.

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The Governing Body does just what they say Apostates do

by Watchtower-Free in

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talesin

D-D ... actually, that was real.

http://www.livescience.com/27354-cameron-video-analysis-new-species.html

When movie director James Cameron dove to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean early last year, he and his team captured hours of video of strange new deep sea life. Today, a researcher is giving a peek into this bizarre new world, presenting preliminary findings based on analysis on reams of footage from the so-called Deepsea Challenge expedition.
One of the strangest new finds is a sea cucumber seen in the Challenger Deep, the deepest spot in the world's oceans at approximately 36,000 feet (11 kilometers) below the surface, said Natalya Gallo, a doctoral student and researcher at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego. This new sea cucumber is almost certainly a new species, and lives in large numbers at this deep spot, Gallo told OurAmazingPlanet.
The research has likely revealed a second previously unknown species, a type of squid worm, Gallo said. These wormy animals are several inches long and live in the mid-water, above the sea floor, she said. "When you first see it, it looks like a squid because it has all of these modified feeding appendages," she said. Until actual physical specimens are collected, however, the new species won't be able to be definitely recorded, she added. [Images: James Cameron's Historic Deep-Sea Dive]
Video has also revealed the presence of giant single-celled amoebas called xenophyophores — bizarre creatures that are among the biggest cells known to humans — near the Challenger Deep, Gallo said.

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Fidel Castro and the WT

by Hecce in

i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.

you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.

during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.

talesin

Since Americans are unable to visit Cuba (or were for a LONG time), i'd be interested to hear about what happened with the JWS in Cuba. I'm sure that Castro did not kow-tow to them like the USA does to every crazy cult on the planet (religious freedom, etc.).

I've heard lots about Cuba, and the people, what it's like there, from friends who vacation there. (I'm Canadian, so we have no problem with Cuba.) But they are not, and never have been JWS. So, I've heard nothing ... no news from Cuba ... about the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Tell! : )

edit: I want to hear about this:

The case went badly for the WT due to the fact the Government was able to show that the WT was just a publishing house and that they were never registered as anything else, certainly not a religion.

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Cannabis And the Brain (The risk factors)

by Brokeback Watchtower in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzt3qph5dpy

talesin

I think Dr. Smith watched this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esfKfTBGadg

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JW Expressions We Hate

by Socrateswannabe in

jw
friends

i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.

" who talks like that?

they must be relics of the fred franz era.

talesin

"The Truth"

"waiting on Jehovah"

"self-righteousness"

.. well, that's a start.

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Types attracted to the sect known as jehovahs witnesses.

by atomant in

l have observed the types of people attracted to the sect are many times unbalanced,unstable,emotionally insecure types.the jdubs seem to home in like vulchers circling the prey ,preying on the vulnerables.they tried it on me when my father who was an elder died.promising that if you become a dub you will one day see him again.l said how can you promise that when you keep making false misleading predictions.l was wondering if others have observed this phenomenon.

talesin

Yes. The converts I knew were single parents, and addicts who were looking for something to hold onto. You're so right. They prey on people who are looking for hope, and salvation (whatever that is).

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Most Poorly Written JW Book

by JW_Rogue in

so i was thinking the other day that the wt corp has produced thousands of books over the years.

although the writers have changed the style is almost always the same.

however, some books are just worse than others.

talesin

Yes, that thick red book. Ack, one of my worst teen memories. Nothing, Marvin. Take care, okay? xo tal

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Is proselytizing less condescending when evolutionists do it?

by paul from cleveland in

is it just me?

talesin

Would it be useful to have a short series of evolution 'postcards'? Just the main bullet points in a short word, pig picture format?

Nic, I think that's a good idea. Stuff that doesn't make folks feel defensive,,, perhaps easy facts that can be googled and researched? Now, that's what I'm talking about ... brainstorming. : ))

EDIT: Earnest, yes, that's the ticket. : D

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Congrats to Kim Mikey!

by awake!watcher in

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friends

congrats to kim mikey, mike and kim reached 3000 subscribers on their youtube channel!

go check em out!

talesin

I think if a member wishes to feature a video in a thread, that's great! As for fomenting loyalties to 'this or that' youtube channel ... well, it's always felt safe here, because the forum is a neutral place.

We used to have an expression, back in the day "Let's NOT, and say we did." So let's NOT discuss the virtues of any youtube people vs another. Rather, let's celebrate the enjoyable, instructional and FUNNY vids.

Let's celebrate our differences - y'all! Don't you see how important that is? So WHAT if we disagree? We now have the right!

Enough with the drama, already! *grins* . xo tal

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Evolution is a Fact #8 - Jumping Genes

by cofty in

we have all become familiar with the use of dna in forensics and paternity disputes.

all humans share 99.9% of their genome in common, but that still leaves plenty room for variation.. geneticists are able to study sections of dna that identify an individual and their closest relatives.

mostly these genetic markers are found in our non-coding dna such as the sections of code known as transposons.. one type of transposon is known as the alu element.

talesin

Very cool, interesting! Nice work, C.

Now, if we could just make the editorializing disappear, less people would be 'scared off' by the science lesson. It's a thought (come one guys, let's win people over! I'm enjoying this, and I think that even 'believers' can, too!) That is to say, ignore trolling, stay focussed, and have fun with the subject. Throw no arrows. xx

:)