Posts by talesin

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Government turning on religion - or - I how I learned to stop worrying and love Drumpf

by undercover in

jw
friends

where, exactly, does the bible say that government(s) will turn on religion?

i mean, other than interpreting some crazy visions/dreams from revelation as such?.

with one megalomaniac leading the gop race for nomination to vie for president of the usa, i've noticed that paranoia has ratcheted up a notch or three.

talesin

But, OTOH, when the election is over, and someone else is in office, we can sit back and chuckle as the Armageddon is once again put back on hold

I haven't read comments, but to the OP:

This is true of most people in our culture. It's all a big drama, with the build-up to election. Flame wars online and dinner-table debates are the norm. The election takes place, everyone bitches, and then, complacently, they lie back.

I'd like to see exJWS support each other in being free-thinkers, volunteering and making a difference *every* week of every year. Stop infighting about issues that involve personal choice - yes, debate and discuss - social intercourse is one of the necessary functions of being human that we, as JWS, were denied. Be civil and respectful, refuse to tolerate abusive behaviour as an onlooker, (passive acceptance of abusive behaviour = agreeing with the bully) , and celebrate freedom of choice and acceptance of 'other'.

haha, this has been a public announcement of one old hippy - the peace/love/understanding kind, a la MLK and JL.

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Fading is never 100% successful is it?

by nicolaou in

mum phoned last night to see how we all are.

after fifteen years away from meetings and my old jw life you'd think my fade could be called 'successful' and for the most part it is.

.. my resentment at being lied to and having wasted over thirty years of my life has left me like a glass of water full to the brim, it only takes a tap to make a mess.

talesin

we're so proud of him."

The harshest cut. ((Gio))

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Dog expert needed

by glenster in

this dog looks almost exactly like the dog daisy i used to have about a gener-ation ago.

you'd think the coloring would be random but it's exactly the sameyet it's from california on the other side of the country.

i think you mix twohybrids that each typically have a look and that's what you get.

talesin

Terriers are such loving dogs; my neighbours, growing up, had a Scottie (very similar to one of your pics). Can you post a pic of your dog? I learned from friends, that my cat was a short tail Japanese breed. Her tail was only a few inches long, not severed by humans, and she was calico.. Perhaps a photo would help, if anyone has more expertise. xx

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Add your Stupid title of Winess books that did not come true

by Witness 007 in

"millions now living will never die.

" -1922. sorry rutherford but they did!.

"god's kingdom of 1000 years has aproached!

talesin

The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures

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(but I still love the dinosaur LOL)

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Urging More Lurkers To Sign Up

by freemindfade in

i have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.

i just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up.

it was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions i made.

talesin

I'm more comfortable posting in member only sections, expecially when first starting here.

Indeed.

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The internet is not private, and even on 'members only', it's important to remember that there may be people in your area, monitoring this board - you never know who may be reading. Exercise caution at all times, and take time to think before you press "Enter" on a PM, or "Post Reply" on a comment. Ask yourself these questions:

"Is this more than I want to reveal in public? to this stranger?"

... and ...

"Is this appropriate?"

You're in the Real World now, and you alone are responsible for your choices and your actions. There is no 'mother' to tell you what is appropriate. Listen, and learn. Explore, and don't let anyone put you down. xx tal

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Urging More Lurkers To Sign Up

by freemindfade in

i have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.

i just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up.

it was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions i made.

talesin

fmf - what a great thread. I'd like to welcome all lurkers to join, and a special note to those who, like myself, may have left years, or decades ago.

I feel the same as Giordano. If you have been out of the b'Organization for many years, you would be of great value to the site, and benefit yourself as well. For me, it meant that I had found one of my 'tribes'.

There are things, like 'in' jokes about our lives as children, or the absolute misery of field service when knocking on schoolmates' doors, that very few people in our current lives understand. That feeling of kinship has many benefits.

On the flip side, your experiences in life, both negative and positive, can help the people exiting JWS, to see that life after DF or DA, is fulfilling, and that freedom is sweet. xx tal

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Fading is never 100% successful is it?

by nicolaou in

mum phoned last night to see how we all are.

after fifteen years away from meetings and my old jw life you'd think my fade could be called 'successful' and for the most part it is.

.. my resentment at being lied to and having wasted over thirty years of my life has left me like a glass of water full to the brim, it only takes a tap to make a mess.

talesin

Oh, and re the dog being part of the family. It is, absolutely, a JW trigger.

The old JWS were taught that animals were not to be coddled or treated as people. I'm sure that one of our great researchers has an Awake! (TM) quote at their fingertips. So, this issue touches on the JW 'old style rules', and when dealing with our parents, any little issue that is against the 'rules' as they see them, take them (and us) back to the roles of child and parent. It is most difficult to establish an adult-to-adult relationship with JW parents, who grew up to see things in an authoritarian way (which was the cultural norm in their day as well); ie, child obeys parent, and never questions.

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Fading is never 100% successful is it?

by nicolaou in

mum phoned last night to see how we all are.

after fifteen years away from meetings and my old jw life you'd think my fade could be called 'successful' and for the most part it is.

.. my resentment at being lied to and having wasted over thirty years of my life has left me like a glass of water full to the brim, it only takes a tap to make a mess.

talesin

Hey. Some issues cannot be resolved. It's the same with my mother. It's been, well, my whole adult life, and after not seeing her for several years, the question was asked "Would you think about coming back?". Even with dementia, and near-death looming, the WTS and its paradise (lost) is her main concern. Seeing my parents, both strong into their 70s, and now old and ill, it's easier to take the high road and let it go. I know there is love between you and your mum, and hope you can maintain. All the best to you, dear Nic. xx

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Your favorite "bumper stickers"

by new boy in

jw
friends

i have two.

"please god protect me from your people".

"if you love something let go.......if it doesn't come back, hunt in down and kill it" .

talesin

Mother-in-law in trunk.

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THE LINGERING SHADOW OF '75

by Terry in

none of you are old enough to have been there, i suspect.

i had been in prison two years as a jw conscientious objector when the exciting news about 1975 spread like wildfire.i was paroled from prison in 1969 and immediately began pioneering.

the pressures began mounting throughout the organization.

talesin

I was pioneering with a group of oh, about a dozen 17-21 YO kids. Some from there, and some of us, from away. It was crazy busy, working at a hardware store mixing paint, making up hours (I was SO TIRED), got sick a lot, and met some 'interesting people'. I didn't really think about Armageddon, didn't believe it. I just tried to win my parents' love and approval. The way things transpired, I'd say I was severely 'disillusioned', not with doctrine, but the characters of my friends and elders. This could NOT be the Truth with a capital "T".