Posts by stillMS

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12/31/2018 World-wide action “Escape from the watchtower" #escapefromthewatchtower

by AlexPancho in

good afternoon!

we are ex jehovah's witnesses.. in this video, we begin the world-wide action.

we call it action “escape from the watchtower”.. slavery in the united states was abolished on december 18, 1865. the fortress law in russia was abolished(аболиш) on february 19, 1861.. but jehovah's witnesses are still in captivity, in fear that they or their loved ones will ban communication through a procedure known as disfellowship.. we offer three easy steps to release:.

stillMS

I guess everyone should walk his own way in this regard. Those who can leave without losing their families, will do it any day ASAP after waking up. But for the rest of us, trapped inside with our families, the way out is very individual and usually is much longer - depending on the circumstances.

Maybe, I'm paranoid, but there is smth suspicious in that ex-JWs Youtube channel and the site they promote (nekudaidti.com - kind of 'Whom Shall We Go Away To') - as it looks too much in accord with Russian government anti-JW propaganda and even wording.

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A Cult Tactic: Removing Guilt By Dehumanising Others

by pale.emperor in

in the real world, very few parents would disown their own children simply because they read a magazine that told them to do it.

very few people would forever completely ignore their own parents because an elder got up on a platform one day and announced that they no longer follow the same religion as you.. in the real world it just doesn't happen.

and yet, for 8 million jehovah's witnesses it's very a normal part of their world to treat "other people" differently than they'd treat each other.

stillMS

In the real world it just doesn't happen.

I wouldn't agree with that. The JDub propaganda is not smth. unique, and JWs don't abandon their family, etc just because of one magazine read - it's the result of a long-term influence/indoctrination. The same is true about other historical examples the OP mentions. People abandon their relatives (even give them to death) not in a JW world only - it happened/happens in many of the mainstream religions as well.

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The sinking of the Laconia two part BBC series

by smiddy3 in

i have just finished watching this program and found it quite disturbing in the sense that both sides of the war effort had so little regard for human life .. it might sound strange to say that in time of warfare when civilian casualties are rife on both sides ,however i think this is an exception.. except for the courage and heroic efforts of the german commander of the u-boat who tried and helped so many people to survive.. werner hartenstein.

his name should be honored by all the nationalities he saved.. and i was appalled by the americans who bombed the submarine on the surface of the water with a red cross flag in full view with civilians on deck and lifeboats in tow with many more civilians on board.. i think this was an exceptional incident in a time of war that both sides should have given way..

stillMS

I'm glad for you, smiddy3, that you're disturbed by the events happened almost a hundred years ago, but I guess there was really very little regard for human life in a war with 50+ million casualties. It was a cruel time, and massacre was not an exception those days.

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TV TRAILER: ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath: The Jehovah’s Witnesses' Two Hour Special Event - A&E

by MaybeSo in

tv trailer: ‘leah remini: scientology and the aftermath: the jehovah’s witnesses' two hour special event - a&e, 9pm et/pt, tues, nov 13, 2018. https://youtu.be/yzdege5im90.

didn't see a post about it yet.

will you be tuning in?

stillMS

Lloyd's (aka John Cedars') videos have helped a lot in my waking up process. I can't say anything about the things he is blamed for here, I can only say I love his older videos more than the current ones (since he has turned his activism to a way of providing for himself) - they might be more 'professional', but lacking some sort of original 'sincerity' - if I could put it that way.

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Why Do People Hate Jews???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i have never understood anti-semitism .why sooo much hatred?.

stillMS

haven't read the whole topic - just my 5 cents to the OP:

the hate for Jews has a long history - mostly connected to religious issues, but no less important is their traditional way of life and occupations - which time and again were used by other nations as an excuse for robbing/killing them.

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Business class for Governing Body

by Sergey Antonov in

jw
friends

hello everyone!

does anyone have any confirmation that the governing body uses the business class for its flights?.

also interesting is the information about the hours that were on the hand of one of the members of the governing body..

stillMS

RubaDub - could you think of perks for showcasing Rolex/Apple watch on the JDub Broadcasting? Perks for advertising tablets to the 8-million audience?

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Business class for Governing Body

by Sergey Antonov in

jw
friends

hello everyone!

does anyone have any confirmation that the governing body uses the business class for its flights?.

also interesting is the information about the hours that were on the hand of one of the members of the governing body..

stillMS

sparky1 - I'm in no way expert on Rolex watches. I was just trying to help understand the OP's question, and used the first random image/video from related google search.

No doubts, we're not here to bring judicial evidence for proving the authenticity of GB's watches. Still, both cases (fake or genuine Rolex sported on JW Broadcasting episodes) look weird to me.

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Business class for Governing Body

by Sergey Antonov in

jw
friends

hello everyone!

does anyone have any confirmation that the governing body uses the business class for its flights?.

also interesting is the information about the hours that were on the hand of one of the members of the governing body..

stillMS

fulano - please, stop with blaming me for the things I haven't done or said. And BTW, your attempts to excuse the GB are a bit too much, IMHO.

And just a music break - for calming things down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWZwG5sWBcM

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Business class for Governing Body

by Sergey Antonov in

jw
friends

hello everyone!

does anyone have any confirmation that the governing body uses the business class for its flights?.

also interesting is the information about the hours that were on the hand of one of the members of the governing body..

stillMS

_Morpheus - I guess the OP meant 'watches' instead of 'hours on their hands' (looks like Google Translate can be tricky sometimes :) ). And I guess this is not a secret, as well:

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How many are PIMO ??

by Phizzy in

i know we cannot answer this, how many are physically in, mentally out (pimo), but i heard an amazing piece of news the other day.. an ex-p.o and ex-elder, a long time regular pioneer, and when i knew him a stalwart believer, went for a drink with another jw who has actually left, but is not df or anything.. in the course of conversation he came out with this bombshell "well, i am actually an atheist now, i just go along to keep my wife happy".. i also heard of a number of youngsters that i know personally who are simply living their life as they want, whilst making sure they don't get df'd for family and social reasons.. if as it seems the pimo's are a huge number, could there be a huge " awakening" where they all realize they are in a huge group, and they all say " eff it, lets call it a day on all the jw s**t ".

?.

wishful thinking, but.....just possible ?.

stillMS

My guesstimate on PIMO % is not too optimistic (from what I observe in the congregations I know) I would say it's closer to 5-10% than to 50%.

Also, as some have already mentioned, there exists a 'gray zone' - when the person evidently doesn't follow some jw rules, but still believes most of the stuff and is pretty active in the congo.