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The Atheist Delusion

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

My humble DJS. Lord. Even if you may feel it isn't objection, it still means that you disapprove of God. Don't try to sugarcoat and say that it's just logic at work because it isn't. In my book, that is not acceptable. If you will be so entitled to disbelieve in God at least treat him with some kind of respect. And atheists are actually more likely to be dysfunctional because of their resentful attitude toward theist such as myself.

A wise man once said, "the age at which most people become atheists indicates that it is almost never an intellectual decision, but an emotional one." Another also spoke "It is widely known that some atheists rejected God in their childhood, based on child like reasons, have not matured beyond these childish notions and thus, maintain childish-emotional reactions toward the idea of God." You see you all don't have the ability to choose for yourselves and you only go along with what others tell you. I know whatever happened to most atheists happened years ago but don't let that rule your life.

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Why A Divine Being is Possible

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now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

and we always here of how it had a beginning.

but really what could have begun it?

looter

But who created those forces? You see, just those forces has to have a cause and it only makes sense for God to have the large hand at making them. The Nuclear strong force and weak force, etc., are simultaneous with gravity for which God must have created. I'd doubt that those forces just were always here without creation. Science just increasingly makes it more plausible for there to be a God the more they find out stuff.

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Why A Divine Being is Possible

by looter in

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now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

and we always here of how it had a beginning.

but really what could have begun it?

looter

If scientist don't blame it on dust and gravity then what do they blame it on? Wind? Maybe it just isn't possible to find God. I don't know why scientist insist they can and will find him. He leaves no trace because he didn't intend for that to happen. Don't ask why because he's God and he knows what he is doing. As for who created God, that's not for us to know as we are just questioning how the universe, earth, and life have came into existence. I don't even think we can fathom how he came to be because we are only humans and only can know so much. If we actually knew how God was created then we would probably be killed instantly because of all the knowledge of learning that.

But for me personally, I believe he has always been in existence since the dawn of time. But I do have a propose. Maybe he created himself overtime from a weaker version? That's just a speculation and we won't know until we all die. Surely God is highly complex for him to be that powerful. So if he's that powerful many feel that he must have been created just like we were. Well, we know that something is not nothing and it requires a maker. But why? Because chance comes with a capability. And chance also gives hope. Chance cannot choose from options that do not exist which is why we know that God has always been around. Like I said, we generally cannot fathom infinity and it's a difficult concept to grasp. But it will not be hard if you don't make it hard.

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Why A Divine Being is Possible

by looter in

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now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space.

and we always here of how it had a beginning.

but really what could have begun it?

looter

Now we all have heard how the universe is composed of matter and space. And we always here of how it had a beginning. But really what could have begun it? I'm so over just doing what most scientist do, that is blaming it on dust and gravity. If you insist these two inanimate forces accounted for the universe and the eventual forming of the earth itself, then what caused them to form and hover? Chemists have been searching for the true cause of the universe and some have agreed that the cause it out of the natural realm. Heck, they have also said that the universe looks designed to a large extent.

The universe's nature is so sequential in making life and any small change in any of these clearly set patterns would destroy life easily. Is the presence of the universe just a matter of a fluke, physical urgency, or even observational phenomena? Is it all really by a freak accident where if just one little thing was different then nothing would exist? All the answers that frequent the minds of scientists and the like strongly fails to give a precise explanation. But if there was a divine being or entity such as God who had a plan and direction, the universe and the earth wouldn't be as perplexing as it is.

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If you believe in nothing, then how do you know JW's are wrong?

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many who leave the witnesses go on to affirm other recognisable sets of beliefs.

some become christians of various sorts, others tend toward patriotism as a kind of rejection of the anti-patriotic stance of the watchtower, while yet more simply affirm in general the secular values of mainstream society.

do you believe jehovah's witnesses are wrong?

looter

for me it's more to do with being asked to join with them in the preaching and not being able to do so anymore as I cannot justify the message.

In other words, you left because you believed they were wrong basically.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

looter

I'm not incorrect in this because it is what I believe and to me you all are wrong for not believing. You see, all people who disbelief God always say there is no evidence. Now it's understood you guys may not be persuaded by the available evidence but you always say that there is no evidence which is untrue. The many accounts of evidence for God is simply to much to list on here. But whatever its form, the bottom line is the same, which is proof that is meant to convince someone of the truth of the matter strongly expressed.

Never claimed all atheists were emotionally scarred. It was only directed to those who are and you all know who you are. That's what I think the video is trying to convey. Now personally, I think that the entire concept of atheism is a bit of a joke. Even if a god does not exist it exists as a god. But I'm not going to disrespect other peoples beliefs as you all have done to me. Whether he exists or not was not intended to be the topic of this thread but rather peoples thoughts on the video. So don't think this thread is to prove he exists because it's not.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

looter

Well, the arguments for theism are as put, reasonable. Everyone kind of thinks differently when matters conflict with their pure personal feelings on the matter at hand. I'd like to say that there are lots of sound debates for God but some just reject without even giving it a chance. Reasons such as there'd be a lot more skeletons around if there indeed was no God, as a lot more sodium chloride in the sea, and even how God possibly could have used evolution to create the earth since it was a long process of a few years. Also there is no evidence that God doesn't exist.

Not sure if you guys watched the video or not, but people were dumbfounded and you might even say blindsided when the people told them proof for a God. It's just an example of how no matter how much you think he doesn't exist, you could be very wrong.

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The Atheist Delusion

by looter in

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atheist delusion.

just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.

the video was actually an advertisement on here.

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Atheist Delusion

Just want to know what the Ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov. The video was actually an advertisement on here. I like that this video goes to show that the toughest to bring to faith are those with volitional objections. Sometimes individuals will hold on to them so long that it hurts them. They don’t want God to be true because they don’t want to submit themselves to any authority that would restrict their most cherished freedoms. Those who hold emotional objections to belief have usually been burned by believers and even Christians. I do think that logical believers have provided reasonable responses to every intellectual objection to the faith. All Christians have to do is read some and they will be ready to tackle these barriers with ease and, hopefully, with grace. But, this only goes for those who indeed have this situation not for those who reject God because they came to a their own conclusion. You know who you are.

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God is Real in Principle

by looter in

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now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

looter

I'm using internet 6 cofty. Please don't tell me to upgrade to Internet 11 because it's not capable. There's just nothing to be done about it. It shouldn't be that hard.

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God is Real in Principle

by looter in

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now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

looter

OrphanCrow, people will believe what they want to believe at the end of the day. That's disrespectful calling me elderly and you should be ashamed. Even if I was an older man that doesn't give you the right to discriminate me like that.