after my recent barrage of elder visits i've been told that to truly show i'm willing to work at restoring my faith a bs is needed.. i want to be able to pick a few recent publications (last 10 yrs) and sit down with him and examine all the quotes and references in the publications to show how the society has misquoted and misrepresented so much in their publications.
do you know which publications would be best..keeping in mind the reference material will also have to readily accessible to be of any use.
i don't think searching on the internet will be acceptable to him.. .
I guess I'm not ready to make that final leap and unless I submit to some type of torture it will be the outward sign of rebellion thats needed to push my family away.
I was looking to study a publication and do an honest examination of it with him to see what his and my wifes reaction is. I'll even try to dismiss the contradictions so it looks like I'm truly moving ahead...when the contradictions keep coming maybe they will have to admit if only internally this is not all its cracked up to be.
may you all have peace!
when i was sent to speak to ones and they came back asking me why it is that we hear and they do not, i had taken it before my lord to ask him.
this is what he told me, their hearts are hard and they do not wish to hear what i tell them.
Interesting conversation...threads like this make me feel sane again.
Kes did Micheal Jackson send you and if so don't get to close to the balcony.
after my recent barrage of elder visits i've been told that to truly show i'm willing to work at restoring my faith a bs is needed.. i want to be able to pick a few recent publications (last 10 yrs) and sit down with him and examine all the quotes and references in the publications to show how the society has misquoted and misrepresented so much in their publications.
do you know which publications would be best..keeping in mind the reference material will also have to readily accessible to be of any use.
i don't think searching on the internet will be acceptable to him.. .
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After my recent barrage of elder visits I've been told that to truly show I'm willing to work at restoring my faith a BS is needed.
I want to be able to pick a few recent publications (last 10 yrs) and sit down with him and examine all the quotes and references in the publications to show how the society has misquoted and misrepresented so much in their publications.
Do you know which publications would be best..keeping in mind the reference material will also have to readily accessible to be of any use. I don't think searching on the internet will be acceptable to him.
Thanks
it appears from private conversations ,as published on this board, that getting access to un libraries actually was a motivation.
for the watchtower leadership to sign on as official supporters of the un.
if we adopt the language the society has used in regard to other religions ( "babylon the great") - as well as the blunt prophecies.
Hi Hawkaw .................Which 91 wt article is that in..I'd love to read it.
And with keeping with the current thread the elders that were talking to me were split...the first denied the foolish thought that they would have been associated with the UN....the other said no it was true but it was Jahs direction and it provided them needed material, and that they used the old world to progress spiritual truths ....and they certainly were not involved in any worship of the wild beast...yada..yada..yada
If they had a library card from the UN...Did they have a get out of jail free card in 1919. Almost free anyway 10K each wasn't it.
recently the following events took place in bridgewater nova scotia.
the information as seen was in the bridgewater bulliten a local newspaper and also in the halifax chronicle herald what the paper does not mention is that this is a jw.
what is also not mentioned is that this jw was disfellowshipped in ontario for something and then later reinstated.
The origanal post said he was 26 not 32 like the guy in Oregon.
I hope someone finds the right contact soon............ The elders may know the facts and withhold them to preserve harmony in the congregation while some poor child has any harmony they had removed by someone they felt could be trusted because he's one of gods people.
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i need to know this asap...please let me know if the epinephrine treatment or injection would have at any time been condemned.. .
thanks
I don't know if there ever was a prohibition....I am looking for weak spot in the armour of one of the elders that is coming to visit me. They are quick to say that all the previous prohibitions on various things were of little consequence...thats because it never affected them personally. He has a small boy with severe peanut allergies.
Looking for a weakness to show a comparison he could relate to.
Thanks
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i need to know this asap...please let me know if the epinephrine treatment or injection would have at any time been condemned.. .
thanks
I need to know this ASAP...please let me know if the epinephrine treatment or injection would have at any time been condemned.
Thanks
does anyone know if the society keeps a library of publications dating from the late 1800's into the early 1900's and whether or not bethelites have access to them?
What do you mean get into bethel..are you going to pioneer for a few years and wait for an invite to bethel or search out and marry a bethelite or go in Ninja style.
You can get most of the litature in a legal fashion as well.
i saw a thread the other day about movie titles for the wtbts.
i like one liners from movies for the wtbts as well..... unforgiven..........((no one deserves to die boy)).
dune..................((the sleeper has awoken)).
I saw a thread the other day about Movie titles for the WTBTS
I like one liners from movies for the WTBTS as well....
Unforgiven..........((No one deserves to die boy))
Dune..................((The sleeper has awoken))
A few good Men..........((You can't handle the Truth))
That Bruce Willis movie I forget the title......I see dead people changed to ((I see dumb people and there all around me))
Any more
does anyone know if the society keeps a library of publications dating from the late 1800's into the early 1900's and whether or not bethelites have access to them?
I'm sure they would have a complete library as many congregations I've been too have almost a complete library less maybe the Golden Age and Wt before about 1940. I don't know if bethelites have access...I would think so, they might need to do a little research to understand why are beliefs are so screwed up.
Maybe they call it the Chamber of Secrets
