Yes prologos, I see it now. Front men (animals) will do anything to
talk to the new chick on the block!!!!! Probably just wanted to dance
but his legs got pinched off him !!!!
you may add many, but here are two:.
1) vegetation made on day 3, animals formed day 5,6, but- then.
in gen 2, man seems to be the primary creation, and vegetation and then animals were formed from the dust and brought to him to name them.
Yes prologos, I see it now. Front men (animals) will do anything to
talk to the new chick on the block!!!!! Probably just wanted to dance
but his legs got pinched off him !!!!
you may add many, but here are two:.
1) vegetation made on day 3, animals formed day 5,6, but- then.
in gen 2, man seems to be the primary creation, and vegetation and then animals were formed from the dust and brought to him to name them.
How did the serpent get around before he was cursed to crawl on his belly ?
And why curse the serpent if it was a known ventriloquist act ?
jtg
you may add many, but here are two:.
1) vegetation made on day 3, animals formed day 5,6, but- then.
in gen 2, man seems to be the primary creation, and vegetation and then animals were formed from the dust and brought to him to name them.
Fair go chaps......
How good were you at taking dictation when the other kids were playing
jtg
i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
So then ben,
when the house holder asks me to explain the generation from those inspired scriptures,
(which has happened to me last week)
how should I reply ??
jtg
p.s. I will post my reply (which of course had no scriptural basis) on another thread in time.
launch an investigation on jehovahs witnesses religious policy that violates human rights and abuses religious freedom.
link.
@ azazel
The jws have had their day before the commission, there is a transcript around somewhere
jtg
i cannot set foot in that toxic environment again, it's awful.
but my son will be going tonight and i have noticed in the km they will be promoting children to go canvassing for the gb at the meeting with a nice demo of a cute ubp and a parent in "good standing" yuck!
vomit!.
yes but Kate, they can only help after they have your permission.
It is after all your call and no one in heaven or earth can negate that mate.!
jtg
i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
Yep you can philosophise ad nauseum but I reckon Edenone pretty much sums
up what we all either in or out reckon. Its all about how you perceive. The reason that
elders get disappointed after their appointment is that they are convinced originally that its all
due to holy spirit.Then human imperfection rears its ugly head...So,,, what happened to holy spirit?
Especially when nepotistic elements stare you down. Ben, I share your dilemma. Hopefully the
holy spirit will work it out after the governing body has their tea and scones tomorrow.
I dont mean to be flippant (isn't that the worst cliche) but I see no other way of dealing with the apparent
inconsistency.
jtg
ps ,,, mate i read and study all the latest stuff and I am more confused than ever!!!!
i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
study wt 15 nov 2013 page 22 para 5 " This includes cooperating with the spiritual undershepherds he has appointed" Its speaking
about jesus here.
Then para 6 on the same page says "The same is true of christian overseers today, since they too are appointed
on the basis of scriptural requirements inspired by the holy spirit"
This thread is interesting as the concept of whether the holy spirit actually is at work.
We continually get from the platform how we follow the lead of "spirit appointed men".
To me it seems the meaning of" holy spirit appointment" is as loose as "generation"
jtg...... I'm off to the pub
i have been reading the posts on who is and or had been an elder.
it amazes me at what many have said.
perhaps i have misunderstood what they were saying.
Isn't there a passage in the Elders Manual where the gov bod remind elders to be careful with
their recommendations as the gov bod rely on the elders information when approving the appointment?
So, to me, it seems that the elders decide who can join their circle based on what they SEE. Is that not also
unscriptural? Which leads me to the obvious question in my mind. If the holy spirit appoints the annointed and we are not
allowed to question that, how is it that those directly charged with protecting the sheep can be scrutinised and appointed
by fellow humans?
jtg
without a lot of fanfare, the much anticipated "research guide" has been released.. to view it:.
http://wol.jw.org.
click on publications.
Just noted that the "would not preclude the resurrection of the people of those cities" Sentence
has been removed from the online sanitised Insight vol 2 Sodom topic.
I'm therefore guessing that many of the references used on this site may well be
"tactically" removed.
So no doubt a letter will be forthcoming to advise all to ignore the lies, (alluded to in this weeks study brochure)
that can't be supported by the online research tool. "If it's not there it never happened".
jtg