Posts by scoobydont

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Watchtower Society Over JWs Fielding Techno-propaganda In Germany And U.S.

by Bryan in

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watchtower society over jws fielding techno-propaganda in germany and u.s. former jehovah's witness stephan wolf is sending material out of germany that i have just begun receiving and researching.

for example i found a link off of a link that indicates the watchtower society appears to be trying to improve its public image as more christian (and less of a cult) there by putting individual jws up to airing a public radio program about christ http://www.radio-nachgefragt.de/ which is based out of the town of bochum.

previously http://www.standfirm.de/ was formed supposedly by private citizens without watchtower society direction to air the idea that the watchtower society had led jws in germany into heroic resistance against the nazi dictatorship even though the reality is that though there were heroic jws who did what they could and sometimes died as martyrs, wts branch head erik frost actually sold germanys jws out to the nazis.

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CAN WE SOLVE THE MYSTERY of why Watchtower doctrines changed when they changed?

by Terry in

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if a person gives a police report of a traumatic event, but later changes their facts during cross-examination, these changes are used to impeach the honesty of the witness.. this impeachment flows from a logical understanding facts must match reality without contradiction.. lets examine the history of the watchtower corporations leaders with a view to the harmony of.

true teaching over a period of years from 1879-1942.. "even though christmas is not the real anniversary of our lord's birth, but more properly the annunciation day or the date of his human begetting (luke 1:28), nevertheless, since the celebration of our lord's birth is not a matter of divine appointment or injunction, but merely a tribute of respect to him, it is not necessary for us to quibble particularly about the date.

we may as well join with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event on the day which the majority celebrate - "christmas day.

scoobydont

Brilliant post, Terry. Well articulated ! Now, to attempt to answer your question as to the cause(s) behind the changes, my thoughts are captured in one word, "exigencies" !

And to dropoffyourkeylee :"I have always had the suspicion that the no-Christmas, no_Thanksgiving, prohibitions were to create a rift between the family members who stayed with the WT and those who went with the 'evil slave' of the time, the various Bible Students movements. I grew up in the Chicago area in the '60's and even at that time there were family members of the living JWs who were in the other movements."

I must admit that I never reasoned along that line until now, Now, it sounds quite plausible, especially when you consider these changes as the "first baby steps" towards adopting excommunication or disfellowshipping as an instrument for enforcing adherence and group cohesion.

My take, previously, on the no-Christmas, no-birthday, no-blood and all the other no-nos was that they served to set the organisation apart from mainstream churches and create a hoo-hah that kept the organisation in the headlines ! Let's face it, if the organisation didn't have a catalogue of no-nos, they would simply have greyed out and their members absorbed into mainstream churches. Hence, it's all exigency, exigency, exigency ! going back to Terry's question.

This penchant for controversy has certainly worked well for the organisation !

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Seen on Etsy - wtf!

by poopsiecakes in

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Judge reprimands lawyer for failing to disclose connection to church

by aposta-Z in

i saw this link on facebook (thank you watchtower uncensored):.

http://www.canadianlawyermag.com/legalfeeds/985/judge-reprimands-lawyer-for-failing-to-disclose-connection-to-church.html .

a witness and a lawer.

scoobydont

@ BERRYGERRY : Thanks for the update. The link to the court proceedings is really appreciated. Good work ! Never knew about this case at all. The WTS is the proverbial leopard that cannot change its spots!

This is nothing short of a stick-up without the gun. The WBTS is basically mugging the Sawdon brothers for their rightful inheritance ! I mean, I left the organisation because I had come to the conclusion that it is not God's organisation but reading about this case just highlights to me that I will never fully understand just how evil and brazen the WBTS is ! Simply too many issues to unpick from this case about the WBTS and its agent, Mr Pole .

While the grounds for this case remain largely a mystery to me, I am sure there are folk here who can shed some light on the following questions that now bug me, namely:

Was Arthur Sawdon ever a JW ? If not, how on earth did he arrive at the decision to make the WBTS a beneficiary of his hard earned money ? Did Mr Pole play any role in leading Arthur Sawdon to that decision ?

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A powerful JC recording from 1984!

by Island Man in

this jc from 1984 features a brother and his wife, who were evidently about to be df'd for apostasy.

but the brother knew his ttatt well.

the elders really couldn't muster any half-way convincing arguments to refute the damning facts on 607 and 1914. even 1975 was touched on.

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RAY FRANTZ ! What's in a name, you ask ?! What a powerful weapon that "apostates" have in that name...stuff of a JW's nightmare and ebarrassment in equal measure !

Thanks for sharing the video, Island Man.

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An eager Sister Pioneer approaches the BOE with her plan...

by LogCon in

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sister pioneer, always thinking of how to expose false religion and promote true worship, finds out that many mormons are becoming disillusioned with the mormon faith because of the revelations being exposed on the internet.

if it is exposing the mormons, it would help to expose other false religions.she puts two and two together and comes up with a plan.. after the next meeting she asks the boe to meet with her at the back room.. ' with all in attendance brother jorgenson speaks first.... brother jorgenson: ' sister pioneer, this is most unusual but we know you are excited about something.

tell us what is on your mind.

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Sister Pioneer is now 'marked' in the congregation...too much of a risk to the organisation ! This time, she called the meeting. Next time, it would be the judicial committee calling her to a meeting. Poor sod !

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The Nature of Watchtower's Response to JWs Re Their Involvement With The UN ...

by Island Man in

... is perfectly captured in this song:.

[verse 1].

maggy darling, sugar dumpling.

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Thanks, PUNKOFNICE, my respect for monkeys have just outgrown that for humans in an instant ! Just imagine if the monkeys decide to take humans to court for defamation of character on the millions of portrayals we have made of monkeys being related to humans which clearly, from that song, they are not !

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The Nature of Watchtower's Response to JWs Re Their Involvement With The UN ...

by Island Man in

... is perfectly captured in this song:.

[verse 1].

maggy darling, sugar dumpling.

scoobydont

Big thumbs up for digging that one up, Island Man ! And you know what really tops it off in the song ? It is the laughter at the end..much like a self-assured confidence trickster who is satisfied he's got his victims just where he wants them and knows that they aren't running off anytime soon. Pretty much like how the Grand Wizards (aka Governing Body) laugh and rub their hands every time they shine a "new light" and the sheeple/prisoners come out to dance and lap up the turd that the Grand Wizards have prepared for them ! The Grand Wizards smile at each other, rub their hands and pat each other on the back, satisfied that over 7 million prisoners are "securely" locked down until the next full moon when another "New Light" is shone and turd served up to manage any disquiet in the cult.

Me...oh, I'm just glad to be out !

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

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It is official they're selling off Kingdom Halls in Britain

by raymond frantz in

i posted here a week ago some disturbing news for congregations being consolidated in britain.

my goodness that was nothing !

a letter was read today from bethel addressed to all congregations in britain that can only be described as the biggest news for years.the main points:.

scoobydont

On here for my daily post-JW therapy and it never fails to warm me up. Thanks to the OP and OCEAN 1111 for this 'nugget':

"Thank you brothers and sisters for all your help. The ministry is now over, officially." "Good bye, check the sky for Christ..!"

You forgot to add a picture of the bandit with a mask and loot over his shoulder ! LMAO (Can I use that expression ? Oh, well the freedom that comes with leaving the Borg !)