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  ELDER BOOK to be HANDED OVER to Min.of Justice (FINLAND)

  by RagingBull in

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  2. scandals

  jehovah's witnesses to hand over top-secret manualon friday finland's jehovah's witnesses will give their religious rule book to the minister of justice and the minister of the interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with finnish rule of law.

  jehovah's witnesses will hand over their secret rule book to the minister of justice, anna-maja henriksson, and the minister of the interior, paivi rasanen.

  image: heikki saukkomaa / lehtikuva until now, only senior members of the jehovahs witnesses committee have had access to the congregation's secret book of rules.. the disciplinary activities of the jehovah's witnesses committee have been criticised for violating human rights.. according to anna-maja henriksson, finland's minister of justice, the purpose of the handover is to examine the book and determine whether its rules and regulations run counter to finnish law.. henriksson and interior minister paivi rasanen met on thursday with the leadership of the jehovah's witnesses in helsinki.

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  Syme

  Come on guys, this is good news as it is!

  Even without the handwritten notes, the Shepherd book is a *piece of art* in its own right. Let them send a blank copy; no problem. When the minister reads it, I'm sure she'll be shocked and appalled.

  I've known and used this book (and the old one) in various occasions (if you know what I mean). Especially the part which describes the judicial procedure, is bound to give the minister the chills. It is Maleus Maleficarum of the 21st century. No handwritten notes are needed. IF it reaches the minister's hands indeed, and she reads it, she will know exactly what to do. But that's a big ''IF'' there: we don't know yet the outcome of this effort. Let's not be too optimistic, the WTS has survived through harsher inquiries.

  RagingBull, please keep us posted if and when we have further news :)
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  CO Special Meeting with MS & Elders

  by Syme in

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  2. friends

  when the co visits a cognregation this semester, a special meeting with elders and mss is sceduled tuesday night, right after the normal meeting.

  does anyone know what this meeting is about?

  this special meeting is held at the beginning of the co-week, and is different from the standard meeting with personnel which is held friday evening.

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  Syme

  When the CO visits a cognregation this semester, a special meeting with elders and MSs is sceduled Tuesday night, right after the normal meeting. Does anyone know what this meeting is about?

  This special meeting is held at the beginning of the CO-week, and is different from the standard meeting with personnel which is held Friday evening. Also, it is the first time (as long as I remember) that something like this happens. So, there must be an interesting reason for this.
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  JW.ORG signs to be put on all Kingdom Halls! New directive.

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.

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  Syme

  Blondie, you quoted some directives which you well know that can easily be discarded and replaced with new ones. In fact, this happens all the time. "This letter to BOE replaces the previous letter of dd/mm/yy. The previous letter should be removed from the cong's archive and be destroyed" ---> This is the most usual opening line of a BOE letter!

  So, yes, I think nothing is impossible for the G7; the jw.borg logo in front of KHs is a very possible scenario.

  Run away while you still have time...
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  Are JEhovah's Witnesses reaching out to the Gay community ?

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.

  https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.

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  Syme

  Nice one!

  If one didn't know that the JWs are one of the most homophobic groups on Earth, they might take the photo for real ;)
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  Time to move on, my last post on JWN....

  by JustHuman14 in

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  2. friends

  i have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, i couldn't retrieve my old avatar so i had to use a similar one and log in again).

  almost 15 years are gone.

  made some friends here, including mr flipper and one that i really miss dearly is oompa.

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  Syme

  JustHuman14,

  PM me please, in your native tongue ;)
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  Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, you read it here first!.

  governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  to all congregations.

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  Syme

  This is a HEAVY change folks!

  First, it really upgrades the role of COs. Simultaneously, it downgrades the significance of the privilage per se; I mean, it's different being appointed by the Branch Committe itself and being appointed by a Jon Doe Circuit overseer.

  Apart from that, the game changes with respect to appointments/deletions: The Branch office was detached from the persons in question so it could give a 'objective' appointment/deletion. Now, it's all up to the CO, who personally knows the individual and may even be best friends, or worst enemies, with him!

  A personal example: When I was due to be deleted, both the BOE and especially the CO did not wish my deletion. But the Branch office took the matter in their own hands and chopped my head in an istant. So, if that adjustment was in force back then, I would now still be an elder. (which would be for the worse, now that I think of it)
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  Here is my prediction.

  by Iamallcool in

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  i think next year they will have the memorial at a larger event space like where they held their circuit assemblies.

  i noticed each first congregation at each kingdom hall has to leave immediately because each 2nd congregation is coming afterwards.

  the first congregation does not really have the time to greet new people after the memorial.

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  Syme

  It's not the same as with assemblies.

  Bear in mind that assemblies aim almost exclusively at JWs, while the memorial aims at the public. It is the only event which is observed by lots of non-jws.

  So, while it is natural to drag jws to WTS-owned assembly halls, it is not easy to drag the general public in a jw-owned construction.

  That's why many congs try to throw the memorial at a 'neutral', and if possible luxurious place, such as a hotel conference hall.

  So, yes, maybe they will start to hold bigger memorials, but still, not in assembly halls, I think.

  Except if the memorial attendance drops at such low levels, that will degrade it to a mainly jw-aimed event, like assemblies.
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  Is it true that elders lurk the forums?

  by make yourself in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  it seems like it is one huge contradiction.

  but are they doing it for the purpose to try to guess exactly who in the congregation is on ex jw sites?

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  Syme

  "Something evil's lurking in the dark", as brother Michael Jackson would put it...
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  Shark Evolution

  by metatron in

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  http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.

  i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..

  that's not the case, however.

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  Syme

  The mere existence of the huge divergence and variety of the shark family is a beautiful example of evolution's power.

  Apart from that, the very structure of, let's say the Great White, is an argument against a Creator, at least such as the WTS imagines Him.

  I mean, just look at those creatures. Unstoppable apex predators, with every inch of their body specifically 'designed' to produce an effective killer. How could this be the work of a 'Garden of Eden'-like creator?

  Sharks are one of evolution's mastepieces.
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  Your Experience with Resigning as an Elder

  by committeechairman in

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  2. experiences

  i'm considering resigning as an elder.

  i'm not planning to fade or stop as one of jehovah's witnesses, just stop serving as an elder.. i have responsibility in the congregation and in circuit, district, rbc, etc.

  and i'm completely exhausted.

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  committeechairman,

  It is my theory that privileges are a kind of dope. To paraphrase Marx, I would say that privileges are the opium of the j-dub.

  In what way? If you have privileges, you are too committed to let yourself think doubtfully etc; moreover, the actual privileges that come with the office, the benefits, the recognition, the respect you gain, the power you have over other people, all these are very powerful opiates!

  I was deleted as an elder, I did not ''step down''. For the first few weeks/months, I was determined to follow a reinstatement course. However, for the first time in years, I felt actually FREE, free to think and read and study and travel, things that I did not have the luxury for previously. (as an elder, a pioneer and an MTS graduate)

  After some time, I accidentally came across the scientific evidence for evolution. Were I still an elder, I would not allow myself to indulge in that study. But since I did not have that chain over me, I dag deeper and discovered that up until that moment I was scientifically illiterate (as most poor jdubs are), even though I was a university graduate! A whole new beautiful world of wonder opened before my eyes.

  Of course, the price was doubt and eventually, disbelief. However, I do not change knowledge, REAL knowledge of creation and its wonders for anything in this world, let alone for serving an organization in which the idea of spirituality is giving out leaflets advertizing a website!