Excellent article, snare&racket !
Posts by Syme
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It is so obviously a lie......now
by snare&racket inonce the spell is broken, one you take a deep fresh breath outisde of the watchtower camp, the amazingly obvious realisation becomes clear.... of course this is a lie, of course this is ridiculous!
you find you have memories of really believing the claims and promises, but it seems like another life, another experience.
it seems so incredibly false once you leave and it is very difficult to belive you even once accepted it!
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Hope -And A Conspiracy Confirmed
by metatron inhttp://www.businessinsider.com/buttonwood-one-dollar-one-vote-2014-5.
just because the 'truth" is nonsense doesn't mean i don't hope for a better world.. .
in recent years, there have been a lot of people on the fringes complaining that the western world in particular is ruled by an unaccountable elite.
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Syme
Metatron,
What you grasped is correct, but did you need a recent PhD assertion to realise it? It is not news, no news at all.
What you described is not some big secret: it is called CAPITALISM, the economic system on which most countries of the world are based. The economic system that enables a 1% of a given population to thrive on the remaining 99% by exploiting them. And it's no new system, it is some centuries old.
And we don't need any 'conspiracy theories' and New-Age analyses to reveal it; do you know a guy called Karl Marx? He explained them all more than 150 years ago. Everything that is going on in today's world, was thoroughly foretold by Marx in his writings. He was not a prophet, he was a thinker who used the scientific method to explain history and society.
So, if you want to learn deeper how the world's engine works, get over the Cold-war anticommunist propaganda, and read Marx.
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Is It Possible? Are They Retiring To Warwick?
by metatron ini'm not making a bold assertion here, just pursuing an idea.
what would have to happen to prove that the watchtower is probably "packing it up", conceding the field, retiring to their new headquarters in senescent peace?.
the dramatic changes we have observed are mostly motivated by money or legal concerns - but not all, as with cutting back on meetings.. you could reasonably have an old guard that still fanatically hopes for armageddon, any day now, while younger men keep their doubts private.
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Syme
"The dramatic changes we have observed are mostly motivated by money or legal concerns - but not all, as with cutting back on meetings."
Who said the cutting back on meetings doesn't have to do with economic reasons?
More meetings means more expenses for the KH and more personal expenses for the members to go/return from meetings. This means less contributions in the box.
The cut of book study in 2009 and the just-announced cut on CO-visit meetings is to be viewed in the general consolidation plan that is going on in the last few years. Every organizational change (and not only organizational) in the WT-Land, especially since 2008 (start of world economic crisis), has to do with money. EVERYTHING.
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OMG I'm so happy!!!!
by Julia Orwell inyup, the apostate is happy.
i shouldn't be, right, because my life is empty without "jehovah" and the organisation.. but i just got a job at one of the best theme parks in the world, which is so what i want to do, and it's the first permanent job i've had since i lost my government job in 2012!.
the job pays minimum wage but i don't care because working in tourism and entertainment is what i want to do!
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Syme
Congrats Julia!
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ELDER BOOK to be HANDED OVER to Min.of Justice (FINLAND)
by RagingBull injehovah's witnesses to hand over top-secret manualon friday finland's jehovah's witnesses will give their religious rule book to the minister of justice and the minister of the interior so that it can be inspected to ensure that it's in line with finnish rule of law.
jehovah's witnesses will hand over their secret rule book to the minister of justice, anna-maja henriksson, and the minister of the interior, paivi rasanen.
image: heikki saukkomaa / lehtikuva until now, only senior members of the jehovahs witnesses committee have had access to the congregation's secret book of rules.. the disciplinary activities of the jehovah's witnesses committee have been criticised for violating human rights.. according to anna-maja henriksson, finland's minister of justice, the purpose of the handover is to examine the book and determine whether its rules and regulations run counter to finnish law.. henriksson and interior minister paivi rasanen met on thursday with the leadership of the jehovah's witnesses in helsinki.
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Syme
Come on guys, this is good news as it is!
Even without the handwritten notes, the Shepherd book is a *piece of art* in its own right. Let them send a blank copy; no problem. When the minister reads it, I'm sure she'll be shocked and appalled.
I've known and used this book (and the old one) in various occasions (if you know what I mean). Especially the part which describes the judicial procedure, is bound to give the minister the chills. It is Maleus Maleficarum of the 21st century. No handwritten notes are needed. IF it reaches the minister's hands indeed, and she reads it, she will know exactly what to do. But that's a big ''IF'' there: we don't know yet the outcome of this effort. Let's not be too optimistic, the WTS has survived through harsher inquiries.
RagingBull, please keep us posted if and when we have further news :)
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CO Special Meeting with MS & Elders
by Syme inwhen the co visits a cognregation this semester, a special meeting with elders and mss is sceduled tuesday night, right after the normal meeting.
does anyone know what this meeting is about?
this special meeting is held at the beginning of the co-week, and is different from the standard meeting with personnel which is held friday evening.
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Syme
When the CO visits a cognregation this semester, a special meeting with elders and MSs is sceduled Tuesday night, right after the normal meeting. Does anyone know what this meeting is about?
This special meeting is held at the beginning of the CO-week, and is different from the standard meeting with personnel which is held Friday evening. Also, it is the first time (as long as I remember) that something like this happens. So, there must be an interesting reason for this.
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JW.ORG signs to be put on all Kingdom Halls! New directive.
by stuckinarut2 inso i have been told that all kingdom halls are to have a large jw.org sign placed prominently out the front..... can anyone confirm this?.
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Syme
Blondie, you quoted some directives which you well know that can easily be discarded and replaced with new ones. In fact, this happens all the time. "This letter to BOE replaces the previous letter of dd/mm/yy. The previous letter should be removed from the cong's archive and be destroyed" ---> This is the most usual opening line of a BOE letter!
So, yes, I think nothing is impossible for the G7; the jw.borg logo in front of KHs is a very possible scenario.
Run away while you still have time...
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Are JEhovah's Witnesses reaching out to the Gay community ?
by Watchtower-Free in.
apostate & ex-jehovalarious meme collection.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/jwmeme/.
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Syme
Nice one!
If one didn't know that the JWs are one of the most homophobic groups on Earth, they might take the photo for real ;)
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Time to move on, my last post on JWN....
by JustHuman14 ini have been posting into the forum since 2001(my previous avatar was "justhuman" and when forum changed to net, i couldn't retrieve my old avatar so i had to use a similar one and log in again).
almost 15 years are gone.
made some friends here, including mr flipper and one that i really miss dearly is oompa.
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Syme
PM me please, in your native tongue ;)
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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by pixel inhello, you read it here first!.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
to all congregations.
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Syme
This is a HEAVY change folks!
First, it really upgrades the role of COs. Simultaneously, it downgrades the significance of the privilage per se; I mean, it's different being appointed by the Branch Committe itself and being appointed by a Jon Doe Circuit overseer.
Apart from that, the game changes with respect to appointments/deletions: The Branch office was detached from the persons in question so it could give a 'objective' appointment/deletion. Now, it's all up to the CO, who personally knows the individual and may even be best friends, or worst enemies, with him!
A personal example: When I was due to be deleted, both the BOE and especially the CO did not wish my deletion. But the Branch office took the matter in their own hands and chopped my head in an istant. So, if that adjustment was in force back then, I would now still be an elder. (which would be for the worse, now that I think of it)