Posts by kneehighmiah

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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)

by LostGeneration in

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i've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.

several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.

oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.

kneehighmiah

I want someone to answer me how the watchtower plans to replace the boatloads of young ones who walk away each year. the organization is like the United States social security system. It unsustainable. The majority of JWs are over 50 years old! That is a fact. Go to JWfacts and look at the statistics. We haven't had a large recruitment spike in nearly 20 years. Yes if youre a baby boomer the Borg May not fold in your lifetime, but it will eventually fold as have many billion dollar corporations.

The governing body does not run the organization. They are a bunch of goofballs that's why they were fired back in 2000-2001. The real watchtower rulers are smart guys If the smart guys behind the scenes expected more growth, they wouldn't be cashing out and stealing alL The money from the congregations. Investing in income producing funds is a retirement/exit strategy. it works so that you can maximize your liquid assets before you die/go out of business. In my financial management class what was one of the strategies that retirees are encouraged to do? Oh yeah that's right, get a reverse mortgage, or sell your house and move to a smaller one. Hmmm what did the watchtower just do? The game is up and they know it. But they are wisely not getting caught with their pants down. with one letter they just stole Everyone's money and claimed ownership overly every kingdomhall in the world. The proceeds from the sell of any hall, now goes straight to them. On top of that they call all real estate shots at the branch level, no more RBCs.

I can't believe how no one can see what they're prepaRing for. remember even here in the United States most witnesses are not wealty. We never sent off anything close to $1500 to the society per month and nobody donates anything at the memorial. At a memorial of nearly 300 people we recieved $70. I was accounts servant in an all black congregation, so maybe we are just cheap. Most educated people in the US are not JWs. Trust me, the watchtower is not making as much money as everyone claims they are. If they were, they wouldn't feel the need to do what they just did. Remember the guys behind the scenes are smart.

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End shunning or lose tax free status

by kneehighmiah in

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which would the watchtower choose if it came down to this in the united states or europe?

losing tax free status would mean losing millions of dollars.

ending shunning means people would leave by the boatloads.

kneehighmiah

Which would the watchtower choose if it came down to this in the United States or Europe? Losing tax free status would mean losing millions of dollars. Ending shunning means people would leave by the boatloads. Remember shunning probably hurts the ones forced to do it more than it hurts the ones on the receiving end. Most people wouldn't shun their own children if they didn't feel they had to. I think the warchtower would chose to end shunning. Always follow the money.

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After leaving did the feeling go away?

by committeechairman in

the feeling that you're never good enough.

the feeling that you're wicked and evil.. .

because i'd give anything not to feel this way.

kneehighmiah

That's the feeling that I had when I was a true believer. Everyone is different I guess. I didnt abandon my belief in God. I think it's important to find something to believe in, whether it's faith or helping people.

im technically still in but what has also helped is that I realized that they are the ones wrong, not me. If you still believe in God, read the bible more especially romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Hebrews And James. These bible books blow merciless, self righteous JW doctrine out the water and can help you battle your negative feelings.

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Detroit International Convention, June 6-8 - IS the public invited?

by Faithful Witness in

my mom was worrying out loud, about inviting the "public" to this event.

she told me they were announcing that people were not booking their hotels fast enough, and "we don't want to make the jw's look bad!

she told me about a promotional video they all watched, full of propaganda about the ford field house and all the arrangements that had been made for transportation and parking, and the city of detroit.

kneehighmiah

Public is invited. The tradition invitation/busy work campaign will take place.

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Nestor and Toni Kuilan in the works of a new book!

by A.proclaimer in

nestor and toni kuilan are writing a book of their memoirs surrounding their experience with the 1980 apostasy hunts.. .

read a little bit about it here:.

http://freeminds2.org/meet-nestor-and-toni-kuilan/.

kneehighmiah

http://masonemerson.freeyellow.com/christianwitnessescom/id307.html

Heres another link about Adams. I hear he is rarely seen at headquarters and is the real boss. Most people say he doesn't even seem to be "Spiritual". all business.

I also have a friend who went to Puerto Rico and met Nestor.

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Am I part of the Cure or am I part of the disease

by Jon Preston in

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so this is the ultimate dilemma.

my wife and i are on the same page.

do we fade, in which all our friends, and i stress friends call us and feel sick and hurt and hurt and we feel guilty; or do we da so we tell the wt what we see as wrong as what we see that lead us to believe its a false religion; or do we df and let me or my wife let them catch us at some wrong doing and stop going to meetigs..... .

kneehighmiah

I say don't DA. Don't play by their rules.

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The CO visit this week he says" In August..."

by James Jackson in

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up until 5 years ago, the co used to work up their own parts for specfic congregations in their circuits.

everything is up to script, in other words, every co in the country are givings the same talks in the local congregations they visit.

what got me to cringe is when he said at the meeting, trying to encourage everyone to pioneer this august; he said :" you know this october it will be 100 years since gods kingdom began ruling, remember what happen when joshua told the israelites to march around jericho on the seventh day, and what happened when they let out a great war cry?

kneehighmiah

The end is so eminent we are having shorter conventions and less meetings and a huge money grab. It becomes clearer everyday that the GB doesn't even believe the mess they spew. Sadly there are those who latch on to every word.

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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)

by LostGeneration in

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friends

i've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.

several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.

oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.

kneehighmiah

I did accounts for several years before switching congregations. All the big donations came from checks. It was the same people each month Donating. 10% provided 80% of funds. And since donations are private unlike field service time, you can stop donating and nobody will even know. Also despit watchtower claims we have not hit 8 million officially.

People genre are forgetting the most important factor. Time. As time passes the zealots die off. There are no young ones waiting in the wings to replace them. the older one donate the most. I know this for a fact from my time as accounts servant. The watchtower has access to demographics. They know theie time is limited by their inability to recruit new ones and retain young ones. Who knows how long it will take for the Borg to fade into obscurity, but it will happen and they know it. if the internet was around in 1975 there would be no JWS today. Think of all the people who denu we predicted the end I. That year. Any talks by crazy circuit overseers would be all over YouTube. the fail would have been epic.

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The WT Isn't Going Away (sorry got long)

by LostGeneration in

jw
friends

i've seen more threads and comments in the last week about the "demise of the wt" than in some time.

several were on threads about the donation arrangement and how its going to backfire in some way on the wt.

oh and the lone elder who was pissed in some sort of passive-aggresive manner about it when he presented the resolution.

kneehighmiah

I Disagree with a few things. first thing is that even though someone may remain in the organization, that doesn't mean they will continue to donate. If they have doubts they will not voice them, but they will cut back on donations. donations were the first thing I stopped. Second, people are already defying Brooklyn authority. That's why a video begging people to attend the Detroit convention was necessary. Apathy is very powerful. People continue to wake up and they can no longer recruit. They are simply getting as much money as they can because they know long term growth is very bleak.

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Did the WT ever unofficially ban Kal-El?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

a few years ago avatar was 'demonized' by the wt.

in reality their argument had an extreme ignorance of hinduism and a poor knowledge of modern langauge (avatar means something else nowadays.... ).

but anyway when i was growing up my parents recorded the 4 supermen movies on to video tape as they were played on tv.

kneehighmiah

Avatar was mentioned by over zealous brothers from the platform and during comment from the audience in my area.