I was wondering about that too. I always assumed it meant the body of Christ, not the anointed. I don't remember ever hearing that it was suppose to be them. What's ironic is that many of the "Christendom" churches already figured that out long ago.
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Todays wt study, a query, no oxymoron jokes !!!!!!
by jonahstourguide ini wonder, is this a new doctrine and when did "reason and scripture" take place.. .
page 25 paragraph 10 dec 15 2013 study wt.
10 the bread that the apostles could see and would soon partake of meant jesus body.
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BOE Letter: We want to suck three hours out of your life
by pixel into all congregations in the united states branch territory re: branch visit in november 2014 .
dear brothers: .
on february 11, 2014, the bethel family was excited to learn that a branch visit is sched- uled for the united states.
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You don't suppose there will be "new light" at this meeting? Or maybe some new information like they did with the new bible, broadcast it around the world. It has to be something of great importance to be doing this, especially when they bring people from other countries and the Governing Body is there.
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This May's new Watchtower Public edition is about prohpecies. It's titled "Can Anyone See the Future?
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140501/
These are two intersting quotes I found:
"RELIGIOUS LEADERS sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers. Doomsday prophet Harold Camping and his disciples widely adver- tised that the earth would be destroyed in 2011. Needless to say, the world is still here." p.3
"GOD’S PROPHECIES VERSUS HUMAN PREDICTIONS
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Turnersville Assembly Hall
by jdubsnub inthe congregation i'm associated with had their assembly recently and i decided to go for one day.
i could not believe how much it felt like one of those mega churches you see on tv.
they've added now 2 very large tv screens on each side of the speaker as well as a monstrous projection screen above.
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They did the same thing at the assembly hall I attend in Mira Loma. They added a whole ton of fancy TVs around, done for the annual assembly when the new bible was released.
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The zeal has gone out of the preaching work , their is no more urgency to the work.
by smiddy inthis is an observation i have made .
yesterday a group of jw`s entered the street where i live , i`m at the end of a street and they stood around and obviously joked and mucked around for about 10 minutes as a group opposite my house .their were 3 teenage girls ,1 teenage boy , and 3 older men .
this was about 10:30 am on a saturday.
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i go to a foreign language congregation so we take the car and drive around to cetrain addresses around the city or go to stores and knock on doors looking for people who speak that language. Anyway, going out in field service there is really chill, too chill. There's not a big rush or urgency in finding people. Like when I went to FS recently, all we did was go to a store full beauty prodcuts cause a sister wanted to buy something, and them went to the market to buy food and and something to drink. While at the market, the elder in charge of the car group made a brief "reminder" that we were "looking" for people who looked like they spoke the language. In reality, none of us were and he was telling us how good the food was. Then we sat in the car and talked until it was time to go. Easy way to count your time though it's pretty much cheating. We only found one person working at the store but all they did was give him the magazine to read, nothing else. in my past congregation, we did door to door but hardley anyone opened. And I noticed that the brothers there loved to talk so they would stop in one place out on the street and just talk for a while before moving on sometimes.
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"Worldly" Friends vs "True" Friends
by DuvanMuvan inhey guys i am new to the whole forum thing (long time reader, first time postererer) and i wanted to get some other opinions on something that has bothered me ever since i first became a jehovah's witness.. i was always taught at the kingdom hall that friends inside the orginisation were the only ones i could count on and that the ones out of it (mainly at school) were just being controlled by satan to trick me into leaving the religion.. however, i always found it to be the opposite.
my "worldly"friends were all accepting of my religion (back when i was ok with being a jw) and are the only ones i have really opened up to about wanting to leave.
the only things i have in common with the other teenagers in my hall (3 boys, 3 girls) are that we've all been raised in the truth and... well that's it.. i was just wondering if anyone else found the same thing when they were a teenaged jw or if anyone still in my age finds the same thing..
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The reality isn't black and white like they put it. Not everyone outside is all bad just cause they don't conform to the standards of a JW. I'm a born in and still young, but I never really had any friends in the congregation even while still believing in religion. I did notice while growing up, that there were some younger JWs who would do things they shouldnt have like date, swear, smoke, and hang out with the wrong people. At the Kingdom Hall, they were seen as good young people in the congregation. I never did those things but it got me to question what we were being told. Plus I always had "worldy" friends at school, and even though there were times when it was difficult to relate to them, they still respected my religion and didn't push me to do bad things. They didn't really care if I was a JW and were helpful, good people. What is interesting is that I felt like I could be more like myself, and more relaxed with them and with people at school than at the congregation.
My point being: it's more about finding the right people who are good to be around with. What the Watchtower does is use fear tactics; they demonize and highlight the bad on the other side to scare people, and when the people swallow those ideas, they avoid the others. It creates a separation, a barrier and a way of control.
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Standing on Street Corners, Counting Time - the Impotent Future of Preaching
by passwordprotected inyou see them all over the place now, 2 or 3 of them standing near a portable display of bible-based literature, chatting to each other.
counting time.. i've seen them in london, glasgow and cluj (romania).
the portable display is always the same.
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The arrangements they have is not to talk to people unless they come up and are interested. For anyone who has lots of questions, they are invited for a bible study and the two brothers "guarding" on the sides could talk to them or take them to the stand. They stands are only really to give out only the magazine and books. I don't really know how affective this is, though from the Kingdom Hall, they sometimes say that they give out a lot. Whenever I see the stands, I don't really see anyone coming around that much. This is coming from the US but I expect the arrangements to be the same everywhere.
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New Book. Intro essay
by Old Goat inposted by the authors on their blog http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/.
dr. de vienne tells me they're down to a final edit of the last chapter.
publication is in a matter of a very few weeks.
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Thanks for the info! I didn't know about this book until now. It looks good, I'll be looking forward to it
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Helping your Loved one correlate WT mind control by exposing OTHEr groups
by Jon Preston inive been watching "the following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me.
she couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you.
so in accordance with hassans "freedom of mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the wt and hopefully lead her to the bite model.
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Watch this video, I think it would be good start to help some people see things a little differently. It's a young ex-Norman who discusess the BITE model, and there's a lot of ways you can relate it to the JWs. He only makes one mention of the JWs using this method so just skip that part in the beginning. Aside from that, he only talks of Mormans and Moonies.