Great story! I like the descriptions you put into it. Very chilling in the end. I think those are all questions we ponder about someone we know, at some point in life. Makes me wonder what did happen to Lily-May, even though this was long before I was born.
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HAPPILY (NEVER) AFTER --a Story from my childhood
by Terry inhappily never after.
(remembrance from my childhood).
hers was a primal scream, cutting me with an icy blade of accusation..
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"High" education
by Esmeralda001 indid any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.
if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?
are you happy with the end result?
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I've known young people (and a few older ones) in my current and old congregation who have actually pursued higher education, including an elder and sons/daughters of elders, regardless what is said by the Watchtower. One person I know works in a medical lab now. But I've also came across some in the congregation that are really against higher education and talk about how it's pointless to go. An elder who gave me my study, for sometime tried to discourage me from continuing, without directly saying it. He didn't press on it much though. I haven't ran into any problems myself, and I'm still going to university. My mother always tells me what "goingthrutheemotions" said in the first paragraph, and she's a JW. It depends who you come across. The official statement is "no higher education" but there are those who still go.
However, I am always asked when I am going to finish. Or maybe that's what others do too, I'm not sure.
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Feeling rejected
by Esmeralda001 injust a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.
however, i'm in the process of becoming one.
in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.
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Esmeralda001,
C'est intelligent de faire des recherches et voir les deux côtés avant de faire une décision. Entre-temps, j'espere que vous vous sentirez plus calme dans une autre congrégation.
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Feeling rejected
by Esmeralda001 injust a little disclaimer: english isn't my first language (i'm from france) thus the poor writing skills.here is the situation: i'm not a jw.
however, i'm in the process of becoming one.
in fact, i'm studying with the jw's, and i'll proceed to become an unbaptized publisher as soon as i finish the first book.to make a long story short i was introduced to the truth when i was 18een.
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Esmeralda001
Bienvenue, vous avez bien écrit l'anglais. C'est dommage votre situation, mais il y a certains gens qui se croient plus supérieur que les autres. Peut-être ils se sent menacé pour votre présence à cause de leur fils et le fait que vous n'êtes pas baptisée. Il faut faire des recherches avant de se baptiser.
Best of luck in your research!
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Brooklyn Bethel Tours Through The Roof
by freemindfade inwas speaking with someone last night who just recently toured the us bethel's.
the brooklyn tour i heard was awful, very limited and disappointing and conducted by a local pioneer and not even a bethelite.
well from what they are telling the folks on the tour since the tm3 bit encouraging (guilting) people about going to disneyland on vacation when you haven't visited bethel, monthly tours went from 6000 to 16000!
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I went on the tour in Brooklyn last year and this summer. There's nothing much to it anymore. You go on a couple of floors, walk through some hallways. The tour guide only takes you to different display boards along the hallways that talk about the organization like construction, different departments, GB helpers and things like that. It's not how it use to be where they showed you different rooms and factory machines. The only room you actually get to see is where they get tools and writing utensils. I did see Losch passing by one time.
The only entertaining part in Brooklyn is the Bible and JW history exhibit. No need to wait in line for that.
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JW logo and symbolism
by Illuminated inthere's a recent thread regarding the jw indoctrination expressed on the net, particularly instagram.
from an outsider looking in, i noticed this when looking through jw instagram profiles.
it came off super cult-ish and robotic along with similar wording used as though everyone, male or female, is a stepford wife (watch the movie for those who haven't seen it).
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Illegal immigrants in the organization?
by silent ini had a thought today that might prove interesting.
i'm wondering if there are any illegal immigrants who are witnesses?
surely it would be a great position to be in as an illegal immigrant because you could play up your plight and prey on the sympathies of others within the congregation.
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I know that some illegals can't do certain things like go to bethel or do construction for them. But congregations accept them and work with them. They get privileges. Just this assembly, I heard that many weren't going to show up when they were told to go to San Diego (about 2 he's away and going down south) out of fear that immigration would stop them along the way. So it was thought that they would show up at the next assembly in Long beach (45 minutes) instead, even if it wasn't assigned to them.
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Overlap what???
by dugout injust out of the blue i asked my wife whos been a jw for some 30 odd years can she explain the overlapping doctrine.
she said to me she never heard of this and said she will have to look it up.
i thought oh s#^%!.
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A lot of members won't really know or be able to explain the overlap because it's simply never mentioned at the meetings. This new teaching was introduced once in 2010 and brought up recently just a few months ago in one article and in the new history book. Nobody ever talks about it or bothers to look deeper into it because it no longer holds the same importance it once did years ago. The generation of 1914 was a very important teaching in the past, and for members who lived during that period before 1995 when it was changed. When you look at old publications, it was talked about in beginner study books, watchtower/ awake articles, etc. but for newer generations it's hardly ever mentioned. And any new members or new recent born-ins will simply never know what the Generation of 1914 once meant unless they investigate and look into the past, or come across some website. As for the older ones, they probably will just accept the new explanation because it comes from the FDS or because they long forgot about that teaching since they stopped hearing about it.
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English to Spanish differences
by StarTrekAngel ini was wondering if someone here can guide me a bit.
i have been doing some research on wt publications, specifically those that have the key writtings regarding changing doctrine.
the problem is that i am native spanish speaker and i attend a spanish congregation.
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I have PDFs of the 1960's ones in spanish. Found it on the Spanish forumn
and it wasn't until April 1st of 1984 that the Spanish and English finally were synchronized.
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English to Spanish differences
by StarTrekAngel ini was wondering if someone here can guide me a bit.
i have been doing some research on wt publications, specifically those that have the key writtings regarding changing doctrine.
the problem is that i am native spanish speaker and i attend a spanish congregation.
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Here is the basic formula. It's not 100% accurate because some articles were put onto other dates. But for the most articles it will match up. I was working on an accurate match up, english to Spanish and vice versa and I have some years pretty much complete. Message me if you want me to send you what I have so far.
English to Spanish Watchtowers
January 1-------------1 de Marzo
January 15-----------15 de Junio
February 1------------1 de Julio
February 15----------15 de Julio
March1-----------------1 de Agosto
March 15--------------15 de Agosto
April 1-------------------1 de Septiembre
April 15-----------------15 de Abril (mesclado con el proximo año; mixed with the next year)
May 1-------------------15 de Septiembre
May 15------------------1 de Octubre
June1--------------------15 de Octubre
June 15------------------1 de Noviembre
July 1--------------------15 de Noviembre
July 15-------------------1 de Deciembre
August 1----------------15 de Deciembre
August 15---------------1 de Enero (proximo año/next year)
September 1-----------15 de Enero (proximo año/next year)
September 15---------1 de Febrero (proximo año/next year)
October 1---------------15 de Marzo (proximo año/next year)
October 15-------------1 de April (proximo año/next year)
November 1------------1 de Mayo (proximo año/next year)
November 15----------15 de Mayo (proximo año/next year)
December 1------------1 de Junio
December 15----------15 de Febrero (proximo año/next year)