Here's another place to research John 1:1 (about as dry as a cracker as far as fun goes, tho... lol)
http://www.letusreason.org/JW38.htm
http://www.letusreason.org/JW38.htm
Gentledawn
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NAILING DOWN the fraud of John 1:1 by demonstration
by TerryWalstrom incall me crazy, but i love to watch seminary classes when sharp teachers are in charge of the instruction.. in the following video, the teacher really nails jehovah's witnesses on john 1:1 with utter simplicity.. begin at 1 hour and 20 minutes in.. i've never seen or heard of this before.. .
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_5qkj7tmbg.
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Pope thinks hitting children is "Beautiful"
by cofty inone time, i heard a father in a meeting with married couples say `i sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them.how beautiful!
he knows the sense of dignity!
he has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.
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Beating a person who is pleading with you not to do it? Repeatedly hitting them over and over and over...
The beatings do damage, too. The fact that the parent (spouse, what-not) ignores the pleas is equally and possibly more damaging, imo.
My parents had the habit of beating us with wooden bamboo canes. The offense to warrant such whippings? Missed a phone call (older sisters boyfriend, of all things), and/or didn't remember to write down the message or the callers name. Or they can't find something they (either parent) have been trying to find for whole minutes of their very important lives.
Perhaps that young girl in the video would not have posted up nude pictures of herself to facebook if some caring adult in her life had taken the time to actually talk and teach her how and why doing it is so wrong and damaging.
People are people.
And abuse is abuse. As is neglect.
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take a moment, to get your boogie on ! !
by brandnew inwatch "bee gees - stayin' alive (1977)" on youtubebee gees - stayin' alive (1977): http://youtu.be/i_izvabhexy
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A few years back, Roger Ebert linked this on his twitter account. it's a very well done version featuring Rita Hayworth
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New LDC Meeting KH Video
by wifibandit inbeen away from the site for a few days...because i have been busy getting these!!!!!!
(pixel, thank you!
) they did not make it easy, plus technical difficulties.. for the main attraction:.
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When they start giving KH attendance stats around the 8 minute mark, they don't actually discuss wear and tear of any given buildings. They only proclaim numbers of congregations in attendance in each hall and that 4 and 5 congs attending the same hall means a dire need.
First thing that popped to mind? The board game, "monopoly". The more buildings you have, the more properties you own-- especially ones where more people are likely to land-- the more money you will make.
How many people sharing a hall snap their respective wallets shut when there are 4 other congregations to help spread out the payment load?
Honestly, the real estate scams that happened in Spain and Guadalajara, and the closures of BRANCHES in Ireland, New Zealand, and Norway, should be announced right along with the rest of the blather regarding "growth" in any of their one-sided diatribes given from any podium during these spiels.
Guadalajara (mentions Spain's debacle on page 3, including how locals paid for everything themselves with no help from Crooklyn, but when building and equipment were sold, all monies funneled to Brooklyn, NY, USA headquarters and benefited no one and nothing locally in Spain):
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/278950/misappropriation-funds-project-assembly-hall-guadalajara?size=20&page=1Branch closure: New Zealand (there arementions of Ireland and Norway branches, too):
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/227870/sale-branch-hq-new-zealand?page=1&size=20The watchtower leadership are pressing all the wrong buttons with these wacky-ass building ideas (charging 7k to 17k for one or two day assembly hall day meetings, justified through a ghost "deficit"; smash and grab all funds held at local level; etc.). They are waking people up with this BS.
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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through
by Watchtower-Free inalert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .
over 2 minutes of pranking .
as i type he is editing the recording into a video .
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point of the call: was it either to give a message or press for information?
I think Cedars managed to deliver a message. As konceptual99 demonstrated above, I doubt you are gonna get any doctrinal/organizational rules type answers from any gov-bod member except, " ask your local elders (so they can punish you)". I highly doubt any member of the F&DS are gonna invite personal letter writing
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Some screenshots from new KH meeting!
by pixel in.
they just put up a link to watch a replay of the "new kh meeting", here some screenshots.. .
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@ R. Jerome Harris
Well said.
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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through
by Watchtower-Free inalert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .
over 2 minutes of pranking .
as i type he is editing the recording into a video .
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The governing body members think they are on equal footing with Christ. Hell, as Terry casually pointed out a few days back, anointed = Christ (greek) and messiah (hebrew). Anyone who thinks they're anointed are actually claiming to be the second coming of Jesus!
And I doubt Cedars expected to actually get put through to Morris. With that in mind, i think he did alright as far as talking about stuff goes.
Again, there is no telling these Christ-in-the-flesh posers that they are NOT who they say they are. These Messiahs cannot be denied their godhood!
Oh, and how many of the governing body are on the cusp of being morbidly obese? As anyone knows, diet is the proper way to control weight. That poor top button on Tony Morris' coat during the TV Jw broadcast looks like it's about ready to burst off his jacket.
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Sam's watch
by Slidin Fast ini just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.
(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).
yep it's his rolex.
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The Truth About Replica Watches
5/30/2013 @ 9:26AM |356,668 views
- Ariel Adams, Contributor
Why Are Fake Watches Illegal?
It is true that many people don’t quite know why fake watches are illegal, or that they are illegal. The problem with the FHH’s campaign of “Fake Watches Are For Fake People” is that the message totally skews what is wrong with fake watches. Fake watches are a poor purchase decision because they are unlawful and because they are usually crap.
Watch makers surprisingly don’t have copyright protection on the design of their watches. I am not going to get into a long intellectual property discussion, but the issue is that while designs are something you can protect, things that are “functional” need to be protected under patent law, not copyright. Patents filed long ago have since expired, or there is so much copying going on between brands, that nothing is “original” any longer. What brands can protect however is their name and logo. Those fall under trademark protection and cannot be copied legally. So what fakes are actually doing is illegally copying a name and logo, as well as other trademarked elements that are designed to tell people who made the watch.
The number of elements on any given watch that can be copied legally is surprisingly numerous. This is why even legitimate brands end up “flattering” each other by borrowing design elements all the time.
Replica Versus Homage
There is a legal version of a replica watch and it is called an “homage.” A number of small internet communities and forums are dedicated to producing, reviewing, and discussing homage watches. These are timepieces produced to be as similar as possible to often historic watches, but the protected names and logos are not reproduced. Some collectors love these, while others have ethical problems with them as they can feel too close to a fake. However, they are perfectly legal. Common brands that have “homages” produced in their honor are Rolex and Panerai, and vintage dive, military, and aviation watches are those which are most commonly ‘homaged.’ The good thing about homage watches is that they are usually produced with a much higher quality than fakes. This is because they aren’t trying to be a low-cost alternative to the real thing, they are trying to be a modern version of something too difficult or no longer possible to get.
How Common Are Fakes?
Many consumers not familiar with watches often fear that they will end up purchasing a replica watch without knowing it. How likely are you to get a fake watch when you aren’t looking for one specifically? Well first of all there are numerous places online that sell fake watches. Most of these sites are from Asia (where fake watches are made) and are pretty clear about the fact that they sell replica watches. The fact is that most people who sell fakes – no matter how shady they may appear – are very open with the fact that their goods are fake. Why? Because they are catering to people looking for fakes.
Fake watches are not difficult to find if you are looking for them. More and more search engines are being pressured to remove or reduce the relevancy of websites that offer fake watches in favor of legitimate retailers. I’ve also personally seen a welcome reduction in the amount of spam e-mail I’ve received trying sell me fake watches (which again were clearly labeled as such). The larger concern again is not the sheer availability of fakes, but rather the unknowing consumer accidentally buying one.
eBay in the past was littered with fake watches, but that is no longer the case. There are probably fake watches masquerading as the real thing in eBay’s auction listings from time to time, but they are less common than they used to be. Above I mentioned that in virtually all instances you won’t find fake watches sold via legitimate watch retailers. Pretty much the only chance you have of accidentally buying a fake watch these days is via a transaction with some private seller who claim “not to know whether a watch is real or not.” That usually means it is fake. So yes, caveat emptor is still a good policy, but fakes are mostly on the wrists of people who know they are wearing fakes.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/arieladams/2013/05/30/the-truth-about-replica-watches/
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For more info on how old clock and watch making goes [this guy made some of his earliest clocks out of frickin WOOD, gears and all!] :
John Harrison (3 April [O.S. 24 March] 1693– 24 March 1776) was a self-educated English carpenter and clockmaker. He invented the marine chronometer, a long-sought after device for solving the problem of establishing the East-West position or longitude of a ship at sea, thus revolutionising and extending the possibility of safe long-distance sea travel in the Age of Sail.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harrison
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Sam's watch
by Slidin Fast ini just started to watch the february broadcast when i noticed a metallic rattle over the drone of sam's voice.
(does that man speak with a mouth full of chowin' tobacco or is he choking on the rubbish he reads off the autocue?).
yep it's his rolex.
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There are actually fan sites for replica watches, including the Rolex brand. Interesting to note: there is NO patent on any watch design. The LOGO ("Rolex" and little crown) are trademarked. That's it. But even good quality knock-offs don't come cheap. You would have to be a jewler and a damned good one, in order to tell the difference. Mostly (if I remember correctly) the internal workings do not use titanium and other expensive
A "showy display of one's means of life" is probably the real thrust here. Both Tony Morris and Samuel Herd hide their left watch-wearing wrists under the table during the majority of their respective time on JW TV.
Also, this:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20130815/consider-kind-person-you-ought-to-be/Which cites this:
(NIV translation) 1 John 2:15, 16
On Not Loving the World
15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father[d] is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.----------------
(New World Translation version) 1 John 2:15, 16
15 Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world—the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life—does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. -
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How much real Integrity does the average JW have ?
by Phizzy inconsider the definition of integrity given below :.
" the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles.. "a gentleman of complete integrity".
synonyms:.
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JWs required to report [confidential] medical information to elders
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/91765/jws-required-report-medical-information-elders?page=1
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Look up the (JW) term: "Theocratic Warfare" (hint: it sanctions lying, saying it is a-okay for JWs to LIE)
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The tetragrammaton does not appear anywhere in the Christian Greek scriptures.
So, what name appears at Romans 10:13?
http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Romans%2010:13
^ ALL English translations say "Lord".So, the watchtower society/governing body decided to place the word "jehovah" (itself a bastardization/amalgam of YHWH and the vowels from "Adonias", which means "LORD") in nearly every instance the word "Lord" appears in the New Testament. But does the scripture cited from Romans chapter 10 verse 13 mean Jehovah? No. How can you find out the facts?
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=romans+10&version=NIV
Look up the verses in Romans immediately prior to verse 13: they are speaking about the Messiah, Jesus.
Double check that leg work: Look up Acts 4:12.
- "Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.”Just the name "Jesus". NOT Jehovah.
Here it is in context: Acts 4:8-12
8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them: “Rulers and elders of the people! 9 If we are being called to account today for an act of kindness shown to a man who was lame and are being asked how he was healed, 10 then know this, you and all the people of Israel: It is by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified but whom God raised from the dead, that this man stands before you healed. 11 Jesus is
“‘the stone you builders rejected,
which has become the cornerstone.’
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The New World Translation manufactured and distributed by the Watchtower is packed full of lies and sly deceptions. They tell their enforcers (aka "elders") to lie and obfuscate all the time.
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During the Gordon Leighton court trial in the UK, 3 elders used the "clergy/laity privilege" as a defense, as to why they could not confirm a confessed pedophiles confession to the crime.
Meanwhile, the Watchtower is claiming zero responsibility in the Candice Conti court case because they have no responsibility towards the lay congregation. They (the leadership) do not direct anyone to hide information. There is no hierarchy in the congregations like that. Except that is exactly what the elders are directed to do when their "2 witness" rule bottoms out. They write a confidential record about the child molestation, sign it, write a date, put it in an envelope and store it in the KH's "confidential report"