Posts by baldeagle

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Musical video on JW-TV February monthly program - must see !!

by Viva la Vida in

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you must see the musical video at the end of this month program (aprox.

at 1:04:30).... i don't like to use "must" but this is wow... if you think they couldn't get any lower... just be prepared...

baldeagle

What is happening to this religion? It gets crazier each month. It’s become embarrassing and lame. It’s really working overtime to appear relevant.

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JW.ORG literature trololololly - JW broadcasting parody

by cappytan in

i'm putting my video skills to good use.

enjoy, my fellow bretheren.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuruwnpwpe0.

Could the allowance of blood fractions be curtailing the growth of the religion?

by Apognophos in

so, imagine that you're just a regular joe who's not familiar with the witnesses and is looking for the answers to life, the universe, and everything.

you hear a knock at your door.

before long, you are studying with a jehovah's witness.

WTS leaders have on a regular basis sought obedience from members by invoking the idea that a teaching or policy is formed and based on God’s divine law. Who are we to argue with God’s Laws? The laws from God are unchangeable and perfect. Divine laws on murder, adultery, fornication, uncleanness are still in effect. The laws against lying, fraud, pride, greed, lust, anger etc….are still in place and have not been revoked or changed.

So we now have the following WTS change that has already been mentioned:

WT June 15, 2000 p. 30 Questions From Readers: Do Jehovah’s Witnesses accept any medical products derived from blood?

........Should Christians accept these fractions in medical treatment? We cannot say. The Bible does not give details, so a Christian must make his own conscientious decision before God.

So in the year 2000 WTS leaders say that the, “The Bible does not give details….” But let’s go back to what the unchangeable perfect Law of God was clearly saying years earlier in regards to blood fractions.

WT September 15, 1961 pp. 558-559 pars. 16, 19

16 Is God’s law violated by such medical use of blood? Is it wrong to sustain life by infusions of blood or plasma or red cells or the various blood fractions? Yes! The law that God gave to Noah and which applies to all his descendants makes it wrong for anyone to eat blood, that is, to use the blood of another creature to nourish or sustain one’s life. Even as Tertullian in his Apology showed how the early Christians reasoned on the matter, so today it is recognized that if this prohibition applies to animal blood, it applies with even more force to human blood. It includes "any blood at all." Lev. 3:17.

19 In view of the emphasis put on the use of blood in the medical world, new treatments involving its use are constantly being recommended. But regardless of whether it is whole blood or a blood fraction, whether it is blood taken from one’s own body or that taken from someone else, whether it is administered as a transfusion or as an injection, the divine law applies.God has not given man blood to use as he might use other substances; he requires respect for the sanctity of blood.

Now this is the question to that WT study for par. 16 above & what JW’s were being taught as being a Divine Law regarding blood and Blood Fractions!!

16. Is use of blood in medical treatment to sustain life a violation of God’s law?

I showed this to a few devout JW’s. I asked them, how could something clearly stated as being against God’s Divine Law, now become a conscience matter? Things that are deemed as being in violation of God’s laws and requirements never change. Were blood fractions truly in this category? How many JW's have been negatively affected in the nearly 40 years that this view was held? As you can imagine no answers or explanations were given. They were surprised, confused and eager to leave!!

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

baldeagle

A lot of excellent information here. Thanks.

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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/

by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker in

who is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?

ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!

the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.

baldeagle

Great points made with many references.

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ALERT: NEW LAWSUIT settlement - $13 MILLION

by Watchtower-Free in

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html.

(published thursday, oct 30, 2014).

thursday, oct 30, 2014 updated at 11:58 pm pdt.

baldeagle

Barbara, thank you for all your hard work.

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Rutherford's last book "Children" 1941- Advice DONT HAVE KIDS...Where it all started!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1941 sept. 15 p.283, 288 "in front of the convention platform the children recieving there free gift (copy) not as a play thing but as the lords instrument for the work in the remaining months before armagedon..." so what lovely message did the kids get from judge rutherford?

children 1941page 281 "no children were taken onto noah's ark...it is proper to wait until after armagedon to have children...its only afew more years till armagedon..." the book concluded.

"(john and his girlfriend talk) ...armagedon is surely near our hope is within afew years our marriage will be consumated and we will have sweet children...we will defer marriage and pioneer ...we will not see each other for a time.." thats why i dont have kids it all started with this fools book!.

baldeagle

Splash: Great quotes. Much appreciated.

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Consider the "outcome" when elders apply the two-witness "rule"

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule is applied by elders when a witness member accuses another member of a sin, even if that sin is a criminal act.

if there arent two witnesses to the accusation, it goes nowhere, including not being reported to the authorities.

and in the case of an allegation of child abuse, the accused is free to molest again.. watchtower attorney, jim mccabe, recently stated this about jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule which he described as a bible-based belief :.