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  Are JWs capable of a genuine discussion?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i was just pondering whether jws are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?.

  i have just finished listening to a great podcast by "dogma debate" (dan) episode 333. this fantastic, in-depth conversation between a theist and an atheist was a masterful example of how a dignified conversation can take place without it resorting to abruptness or even nastiness.. jws on the other hand seem incapable of having such discussion without ending up in the following ways:.

  1)they get dogmatic and defensive if a differing view is presented.. 2)if the conversation doesn't go their way, they cut it short saying something like "well, we had better agree to disagree" or the like.. so why the arrogance?

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  baldeagle

  The Pew Research Center that analyzes religions shows that JW’s consistently attain the least amount of education as a group. It’s no surprise that they also have the lowest annual income as a group.

  However, regardless of this you cannot tell a JW anything constructive. As soon as it’s negative in the slightest, or not entirely positive about them and their leaders the conversation is over.

  They are not allowed to fact check their beliefs or openly debate any interpretations. Regardless of all this, they display an extremely unjustified level of arrogance and overconfidence about themselves.

  Remember only they will be saved and have all the answers. You cannot teach them anything, they are on earth to teach us, and don’t ever forget they have the Best Life Ever.

  
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  Tony "Tightpants" Morris Talks Of Tight Pants AGAIN!!

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  again with the pants... tony, if you can't stop looking at young men in tight pants don't take it out on the rest of us.

  https://www.facebook.com/john.cedars.5/posts/868329653345317.

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  baldeagle

  The insanity continues.
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  What Will The Future Hold For Jehovah's Witnesses

  by VW.org in

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  2. friends

  as descibed by the title here is a link to reddit of a what i believe is a powerful post with heaps of information.

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  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/7ovq5o/watchtowers_decline_what_will_the_future_hold_for/?utm_source=reddit-android.

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  baldeagle

  Thanks John Redwood for this information. We all appreciate your time and hard work in all of this.
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  Mene Mene Tekel Parsins - The real leaks are starting

  by berrygerry in

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  2. scandals

  https://gizmodo.com/new-whistleblower-site-faithleaks-releases-confidential-1821799936.

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  baldeagle

  Thanks for the information.
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  Manmade rules

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

  it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

  i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

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  baldeagle

  CO’s for the most part have been full of their self-righteous highfalutin PERSONAL OPINIONS on a variety of matters.

  They were often drunk with power and had a self-aggrandizing attitude.

  I say good riddance to them. I am glad that they are terminated and shown the door, at the age of 70.

  It really demonstrates how much their beloved JW branch headquarters cares about their sacrifice and opinions after all.
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  Old Light - New Light

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  terry walstrom posted this exceptional link on another thread.

  i think it so amazing that it should have a thread of its own so everyone can have clear and easy access to the document.

  terry wrote:.

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  baldeagle

  Thanks, for the reminder Vanderhoven7.

  Thanks to Terry and all who were involved in cataloguing this information for us.
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  CL&M part Jan 4 - annual meeting service report - our outstanding experiences

  by loneranger in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was the first part in the "living as christians" section of the meeting tonight.

  speaker had two pioneers on the stage to relate their outstanding experiences for 2017. we have 23 pioneers and over 160 publishers in the hall.

  our territory is densely populated with single family houses, apartments and condominiums.

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  baldeagle

  Some hilarious experiences, how truly lame.

  That celestial chariot is certainly on the move. We realize it’s very hard for many of us to keep up with it our dear brothers & sisters.

  The end is imminent, we are on the very threshold of entering the new system and remember this is the Best Life Ever… so Don’t Give Up.

  Praise Jah.
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  Birthdays are Evil - so they said

  by EverApostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week i celebrated my birthday.

  accepted well wishes from people near and far.

  had been happily accepting wishes from people since i quit the cult.. as a jw, (brainwashed ) belief that birthdays are evil was the stupidest belief i had in all my life.. when in, i had a hard time to explain to people that i don’t celebrate birthdays.

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  EverApostate said, “As a JW, (brainwashed) belief that Birthdays are evil was the stupidest belief I had in all my life.”

  LongHairGal said, “Pay no attention to what the religion said (pagan nonsense) because they just want to isolate you from non-JW relatives and friends. They are afraid if you experience happiness around people who aren't judging you - you won't want the religion anymore.”

  Great observations above. When one is awake and looks back at what they believed in, it is truly astonishing at how duped we were. With the Watchtower goggles removed, the lunacy and total absurdity of JW beliefs we used to live by becomes disconcerting indeed.

  I always ask myself, “How in blazes did I fall for all this crap?”

  #WhatAGullibleFoolIWas

  #INeedATimeMachine
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  Wave your phone lights and dance at the Assemblies!

  by days of future passed in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my sister sent me this youtube.

  in it are witnesses waving their phone lights and dancing in the aisles.

  sorry if this vid has been posted before.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k7iw-zisgw.

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  baldeagle

  “Magnum” you are right with your observations.

  This religion is truly lame and embarrassing. I cannot wait for more craziness in the year 2018.

  I think many of us will be very surprised at how much this religion will continue to morph in order to remain relevant and hang onto members.
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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  baldeagle

  I concur with many here like OnTheWayOut, Sunworshipper805, and Magnum. For me it was cumulative and produced nagging doubts it was like, “What in blazes am I hearing from this WT study, public talk, assembly program etc.”

  The retooling of the “generation” teaching in 1995, 81 years after 1914 was a red flag. This was a benchmark teaching that many Witnesses used to make crucial life-altering decisions. It was simply torpedoed out of existence and replaced. My lingering doubts were now crystalized that the leaders of this religion were clearly fabricating their doctrines. As the years and decades marched on with no end in sight, they were using a piecemeal approach to make modifications.

  Regrettably, I remained active until the nonsensical teaching in 2010 that two groups of anointed from 1914, overlap to make up a continuous generation. I knew it was all a falsehood 15 years earlier, what was I thinking? Aside from the obvious fear of losing your entire family and social network in a heartbeat, something else is at play in the JW mindset.

  It’s what is called herd mentality. This is defined as, “The inability or refusal to listen to one's own instinct or 'gut feeling' but to instead follow the majority for fear of being wrong, ostracized or ridiculed.”

  While we are nurturing doubts, we feel guilty when we observe our fellow congregants and their apparent faithful lifestyle. We are surrounded by pioneers, elders, servants, CO’s and Bethelites etc. We go to large conventions and see literally thousands of people, many that we respect and admire that tirelessly soldier on in their JW activities. We wonder could all these families be duped and I’m right. On the other hand, could I be the one that is seeing things incorrectly?

  Therefore, the direct anxiety of being shunned along with the “herd mentality” literally causes many years or even decades to go by, before we can break free from the grip this religion has on people.

  The GB leadership whether today or 80 years ago has a lot to answer for; they have indeed ruined a countless number of lives of people who were mostly sincere and believed they were doing God’s will.

  #WhatAGullibleFoolIWas

  #INeedATimeMachine

  Sorry for the double post.