Dune and Chapterhouse Dune. Reading of the machinations of the Bene Gesserit was like reading the Watchtower. How bizarre.
Posts by Odrade
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Was There a Fictional Work Helped You Realize the Truth About the (T)ruth?
by BabaYaga inthe pen really can be mightier than the sword, and even fiction often carries much weight and powerful messages.. did you read a book or watch a movie that made you think?
did an "entertaining" work plant a seed of doubt?.
the first one i can remember making a definate comparison to the witnesses in my mind was ray bradbury's martian chronicles.
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MY APOLOGIES TO ALL
by Mary inlooking back over the last few weeks, i think i've been unnessarily rude to some posters and i just want to apologize to anyone who has been on the receiving end of my anger recently.. i believe that i'm so angry, dismayed, devastated and heartbroken over what's happening to my brother in law, that i've been taking it out on others and that's not right.
it makes absolutely no difference what i think of the wts as a whole, or whether or not americans have a universal healthcare system......none of that makes any difference whatsoever when someone you love and has been like your brother for 35 years is dying and there's not a fucking thing we can do about it.. my sister just called me and there's more bad news, and that's that his disease has now progressed into the acute myeloid leukemia which means he cannot start the therapy they were going to give him, as this is far more serious now.
they want to start chemo right away, but his blood counts aren't up high enough for him to survive.
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Odrade
I'm so sorry Mary. I had no idea of any of this, I must have missed your previous posts about it. My thoughts are with you and your family.
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My dog is grossing me out
by horrible life inmy dog is grossing me out.
she is eating all of the locusts she can find!
they are alive and buzzing.
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Odrade
Yeah, probably won't hurt her. Locusts are very edible/digestible.
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
LOL @ wuz! That sounds like a plan!
ziddina, no kidding, it was so strange that, if I didn't know him, I would suspect that he had "perversion" issues himself. In the past I've had plenty of time to observe him, so I don't have any reason to believe that he is "interested" in children or in force, however, he does absolutely regard women as second class citizens. It's the old, tired line about the "weaker vessel" and headship, I'm sure.
Jimmy, I don't know if the society ever put it in writing, but I do seem to remember an article years ago that gave an experience of someone urinating on her would-be rapist, and a follow up that defecation and vomiting could also be effective. I'm assuming it was one of those made-up experiences? I don't have access to the Litter-ature anymore, so I can't look it up.
heybaby, thanks! fortunately for me, they left town today. :D
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
LMAO!!! I'll see if I can turn it up. I don't personally know it, and I'm sure my hubby doesn't. So I have one more in-law I can tap. :D
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
LOL @ Avi, a guy like that is going to toe the party line all the way. Look it up on the internet? Not. I doubt he'd be looking up what he would regard as "apostate lies" on the internet. Oh man would I ever like to be an observer though, if in some strange universe he found himself trying to go toe to toe with you! :)
I found out from family that U-I-L was a convert, and he came from a bad background. Might go a ways to explaining his fanaticism, although it hardly excuses it. Anyways, I doubt I'll be seeing him again.
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
Can't make assumptions like that. This man is highly educated, works in an executive position (nearing retirement,) and of very high intelligence. In his outside life he is absolutely NOT a nobody. Just goes to show you how the WT can make morons out of even brightest people if they buy into it.
Billy, my objection to his statements wasn't that it's difficult to induce vomiting, but that he shows a fundamental lack of understanding of violent sexual crimes. An action like that is much more likely to get a woman killed than to stop an attack, and the WT knows this, which is why (I hope) they don't make this claim anymore. I'm not confident in that though, because U-I-L was one of the first to be invited back to NY for that special elder training, so he is undoubtedly well-fortified with the current party-line. So that is the bullshit he is carrying into judicial committees.
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
gah, not fun. Well, I'm just not going to put myself if the way of that again, because I do NOT think I'll be able to keep my mouth shut a second time.
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
Heaven: The only thing U-I-L is not, is a hypocrite. He believes he holds himself to the same high standards. But don't even get me started on his views of women and their 2nd class citizenship. Party-line all the way.
daniel-p: We all left after barely 2 hours. Usually these family gatherings go on for much longer, but we had absolutely had our fill of his rhetoric. If it hadn't been for the fact that it would have hurt my M-I-L, I would have turned around and walked out after the first 10 minutes.
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Wheee!!! spent a lovely evening with JW family *rolls eyes*
by Odrade inor not, as the case may be.
in-laws' family members were visiting from out of town so we went over for the evening.
my uncle-in-law is extremely religious.
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Odrade
Quandry: LMAO @ your second suggestion!
Edington: Exactly! but we know that already - the WTS has proved over and over just how lacking in compassion they are.
dudeson: Actually yeah, in a way that is what he was saying. He kept going on and on about how many innocent people are trapped in the prison system and that if it were run in the WT fashion that would never happen. "Two witness rule, two witness rule." He sounded like a damn parrot.
homeschool: I have a hard time myself, believing how over the top this was. Then I have to question myself, was it really over the top? Or are the zealous ones all this way, and I didn't notice when I was in, because I was used to it?
chickpea: Oh I'm under no delusion that anything I could say would get through to him. It's just that on some issues, I can't remain silent. Especially when such horrible things are being said, and I KNOW he has said the exact same things on Judicial Committees. "Did you scream? Did anyone see it? Well then, sorry. You'll just have to wait on Jehovah. You're disfellowshipped." I can just see it.
jamiebowers: He is obsessed with sex crimes AND sex. That was probably the 10th time that evening that I heard, when he mentioned either rape, sex, or the "sexual filth and perversion of the wicked system." FFS, we were only there for 2 hours!
Heaven: if I could have, believe me...