just like the wts, the mormons (okay, the "church of jesus christ of latter-day saints," hey look, a religion with even less talent at picking a name than the jw's) hide their net worth.
nobody knows how much money they have, though estimates go as high as 30 billion usd.. .
well, this guy in portland is suing them for (what else) pastoral pedophilia, and part of the discussion of damages, the plaintiff argues, is the revelation of how much money the church has.
I think there are stops along the way from State Supreme court to SCOTUS. I heard this too, thought it was significant, and also thought that this one was sure to go all the way in the judicial system, because surely the LDS will not let it drop if they get an unfavorable ruling.
What I'm most curious about is whether WT will be filing a "friend" brief, or whatever that is called, like they did with Jimmy Swaggart?
i posted here a couple of months ago, or less.
my home computer crashed and they cracked down on messageboard sites at my work, so the work laptop was out.
plus, i just felt emotionally burned out and just didn't want to think about it anymore.
Emily, the emotional you is being a real idiot. Start using some commonsense. You are involved with an abuser. AN ABUSER! YOUR BOYFRIEND IS AN ABUSER. Say to yourself: I AM DATING AN ABUSER. I AM GIVING ANOTHER PERSON PERMISSION TO ABUSE ME.
Does that seem reasonable? So now what do you need to do about it? If you had a girlfriend who was dating a guy like your guy, what would you tell her?
This has absolutely nothing to do with the Jehovah's Witnesses. It wouldn't matter what religion (or no religion) this guy is, HE IS AN ABUSER. He will be an abuser with the JWs, he will be an abuser without the JWs. YOU CANNOT CHANGE HIM.
Now tell yourself: I AM NOT GOING TO ALLOW ANOTHER PERSON TO ABUSE ME.
Good. Now what else are you going to do about this to take care of yourself?
we're expecting some out-of-town ex-jw's coming to town that afternoon.
sunday august 12 at/after 4pm at kennedy school courtyard.
http://www.mcmenamins.com/index.php?loc=113
I'll be there with hubby in tow...
i have to share this.
last night i had an appointment with a lady.
i was under the impression that it was regarding life insurance, something i will need to get soon, however there were hints that there was some sort of "business opportunity".
Descender: Same situation for me, different company. I could barely afford to buy food, and got talked into "investing" $1200 by a JW family that had kind of become like a surrogate family to me (at 21.) I had to beg, borrow and (almost) steal, to get that kind of cash. Not long after they kind of weren't very much "family" anymore, because of course once I received my "materials" and discovered it was a pep talk on 8 tapes and a freakin' workbook, I just couldn't pitch that to anyone.
I later received a few phone calls from the attorney general, looking for people who had been taken in, but not made a dime themselves. They were putting together prosecution, but since I still believed the JWs were the "truth," I declined participation since, obviously, I couldn't treat my "brothers" that way (ie: sue them.) Stupid me. It would have been nice to get that money back, or at least a little non-monetary payback. It took me 16 months to pay it all back I was so poor.
Meh, I learned a lesson, that's for sure.
whats the most outrageous thing you have ever heard of an apostate doing to get back at the witnesses?
a while back on here i heard of some guy that was hugely pissed about the 1975 fiasco.
he dressed up in one of those ancient drama outfits and stormed the stage at a convention screaming, " i'm the faithful and discreet slave!!!!".
My dad tells this story of how one year when he was working security at a D.C. a guy on roller skates, dressed in a nun's habit rolled into the stadium with ballon bouquets. He wanted to skate into the arena and hand out helium balloons with bible messages inside. Pop the balloon get a scripture. LOL! Yeah, they surrounded him and wheeled him right out the door. I didn't get to see it though. :(
I also remember a guy here in Portland who had a freakin' long white beard, standing on the bus benches, hopping from bench to bench preaching a hellfire and damnation sermon at the top of his lungs at all the departing JWs after the session was over. Don't think he was an apostate though, just a crazy fundie.
Good stuff.
doing some research, found this site and forgot i used to be here..... any old timers still around?.
animal.
Hey animal, you just came up in conversation this weekend. Of course I remember you! Sounds like you're doing well, life is good around here too, except for being knee-deep in paperwork for business, and procrastinating by poking around here a bit.
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on sunday in florida, a flash of lightning came out of the clear blue sky and injured a door-to-door book seller.. paul harvey, on his radio news program, said it was a jehovah's witness.
however, the denomination is not mentioned in this account from channel 4 in miami.. http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_189151333.html.
religious book seller struck by lightning(cbs4)hialeah a man making a trip from puerto rico to south florida to raise money for his religious education remains hospitalized monday after he was struck down by a bolt of lightning which flew from clear blue sky on sunday.
Dunno, their "leader" sounded awfully callous: "but what can we do? Things happen in life, but we still believe in God." Seems most faith-based organizations would be more emotional: "we're all praying for him and his family..." etc. Instead this is like *shrug* things happen.
Sad, regardless.
White Dove, that must have been one of the very first assemblies around here with the "new" baptism vows.
June 14, 1986 Woodburn, OR. First assembly for our circuit after the change in vows. I remember thinking it sounded different, but was so wound up I didn't really think about why, and chalked it up to the excitement.
on sunday in florida, a flash of lightning came out of the clear blue sky and injured a door-to-door book seller.. paul harvey, on his radio news program, said it was a jehovah's witness.
however, the denomination is not mentioned in this account from channel 4 in miami.. http://cbs4.com/local/local_story_189151333.html.
religious book seller struck by lightning(cbs4)hialeah a man making a trip from puerto rico to south florida to raise money for his religious education remains hospitalized monday after he was struck down by a bolt of lightning which flew from clear blue sky on sunday.
"I'd be happy to leave it with you for a small donation to help with the costs of the World Wide Education Work." If you heard that (and had never been a JW,) wouldn't you think #1: Selling, #2: Fundraising, #3: Raising money for school?
Sounds plausible to me that it was a JW. There is a branch in Puerto Rico, isn't there?- and certainly many congregations. A non-JW might not understand the distinction between KH, Branch, and Headquarters.
i was raised as a witness and have been miserable for my entire existence.
i have hated every moment of it.
after about 10 years of struggling, i decided 2 years ago that i was done w/ the charade and wasn't going to return to the meetings.
ugh. Sorry. Maybe this will help, maybe not:
About 4 years ago we stopped going to the meetings, my little brother told me that if I didn't get "things" together he wouldn't be associating with me anymore. He meant it too, there were months when he didn't speak to me. Things have changed though, and even though he is still a loyal JW, this week he was sitting in my driveway on the truck tailgate, playing with my dogs and having a little chat.
Maybe he thought I was going to turn into a terrible person. I don't know. We're still not best friends, but things are nice.
Hang in there, and welcome to JWD.
