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  ROKU INVASION!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  my wife bought a roku device!!

  lol!!!!

  hahahahahahah!!!!.

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  Odrade

  A bit like the "parlor walls" in Fahrenheit 451.

  "My wife says books aren't 'real.'"

  "Thank God for that. You can shut them, say, 'Hold on a moment.' You play God to it. But who has ever torn himself from the claw that encloses you when you drop a seed in a TV parlor? It grows you any shape it wishes! It is an environment as real as the world. It becomes and is the truth. Books can be beaten down with reason. But with all my knowledge and skepticism, I have never been able to argue with a one-hundred-piece symphony orchestra, full colour, three dimensions, and I being in and part of those incredible parlors. As you see, my parlour is nothing but four plaster walls. And here " He held out two small rubber plugs. "For my ears when I ride the subway-jets."
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  At This Point In Time Would You Ever Subject Yourself To A Judicial Committee?

  by minimus in

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  i certainly wouldn't.

  and if the elders wanted to have a meeting with me, i would respectfully decline.

  if the elders wanted to deal with you, would you talk with them?.

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  Nope. I don't owe them an explanation. I don't have any fear of engaging, but I have more important things to do with my time. Books to read, quilts to finish, bourbon to drink, there's probably something on TV that needs watching...
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  ROKU INVASION!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

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  my wife bought a roku device!!

  lol!!!!

  hahahahahahah!!!!.

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  My in-laws are doing the same. Took MIL to costco to get her new tablet, and set up all the JW garbage on it. Now teaching her how to use it. For now, we are practicing "reply to an email." Next I will teach her "write a new email."

  She replied to an email last night something like this:

  How do I get apps? YOU CAN SEE TAHT I HAVE GOTTEN STUCK WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN IT OFF. MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS BUT i WILL SIGN OFF FOR NOW.

  omg I laughed 'til I cried. I have to admit, I'm getting my money's worth for the entertainment value. The inlaws are in their 70s and 80s, and can barely operate a basic flip cellphone. They haven't asked for a ROKU yet...
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  facebook-- Humans of New York (HONY)

  by losingit in

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  right there, featured on facebook on hony's page... jehovah's witnesses.

  posted link to this site and to jwfacts.

  im sure i'll get some hate messages.

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  Odrade

  I wonder how many of the JWs on the thread are counting time? (You know somebody had to bring that up.)
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  Finally sent that letter, but not to mom...

  by Odrade in

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  no not that letter.. so we hobbled along with the family relationship.

  my parents (super-devout, highly involved and connected in jw-land,) spoke with me occasionally with that sad mopey voice.

  at one point about 6 years ago, my mom quit speaking to me.

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  Hey Aude! Good to see you too!

  likeabird, every word you wrote... it's like looking in a mirror.

  My counselor had kind words to say about my decision to write this letter. She said it was a very adult way to behave, and pointed out that our relationship has never been allowed to develop into one where everybody gets to be adults.

  I think I learned the thing about guilt from dog training. Uniquely human emotion too. I've been thinking a lot about guilt lately, I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of my nightmares are tied into that emotion. Have you ever tried dream journaling? The counselor suggested I start that.
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  Finally sent that letter, but not to mom...

  by Odrade in

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  no not that letter.. so we hobbled along with the family relationship.

  my parents (super-devout, highly involved and connected in jw-land,) spoke with me occasionally with that sad mopey voice.

  at one point about 6 years ago, my mom quit speaking to me.

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  fiddler, I'm so sorry. I think in some ways, this push-pull thing they do where they don't fully shun us, but never fully engage either, is more painful than being cut off outright.

  I understand the guilt, I really do. For years I have felt like, as long as he is trying to maintain a relationship, I should leave the door open. But I just couldn't do it anymore. It occured to me that in 12 years, he never really listened, never asked, never considered that I had reasons... that's no kind of relationship.

  It was good of you to be there, even if you couldn't see him.

  smiddy, I can think of several people who suicided because of being shunned by their families. It's heinous.
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  Finally sent that letter, but not to mom...

  by Odrade in

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  no not that letter.. so we hobbled along with the family relationship.

  my parents (super-devout, highly involved and connected in jw-land,) spoke with me occasionally with that sad mopey voice.

  at one point about 6 years ago, my mom quit speaking to me.

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  Thanks again, folks, for the support.

  One part of the letter that I redacted was that I acknowleged that he was a good father who made some poor choices. The religion was bad choice número uno. He also was a harsh disciplinarian who took corporal punishment way too far, and for way too long.

  In every other respect he was involved and interested, as a father should be. If you take away the damage wrought by religion, I believe that not only does he genuinely like me as a person, but might even respect me - as much as somebody completely hostage to institutional sexism can ever respect a woman anyways.

  Of course, WT wrecks everything.

  It would be so much easier if I could just call him a villain, hate him, and be done with it.

  I really do love them. I just can't have contact, it's too painful.

  This was the right action for me, at the right time. Maybe that resonates with some people here.
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  AREN'T BOOKS really a perfect GIFT for seasonal giving for opening fence-sitting JW minds?

  by Terry in

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  i spent about 6 years working at half price books.. i know people who are readers are passionate about reading.. the choice of what to read is personal.. _____________.

  when i've been given a book as a gift--i take it as a personal gift.

  kinds of gifts (i.e.

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  Half-Price Books? *squeeeeeeee*

  Many of my hard-earned shiny gold rocks have ended up there. I was so sad when the CapHill Seattle location closed.
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  Finally sent that letter, but not to mom...

  by Odrade in

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  no not that letter.. so we hobbled along with the family relationship.

  my parents (super-devout, highly involved and connected in jw-land,) spoke with me occasionally with that sad mopey voice.

  at one point about 6 years ago, my mom quit speaking to me.

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  Thanks flipper, that must be a nightmare. Whatever else went down in our house growing up, I can't imagine my father behaving like this, especially toward my mother. He at least tries for consistency, and he's quite a rule-follower. One of the sad things is how my brother is still trying to win his approval, and he just blows so hot and cold. I don't know.

  It becomes impossible to separate the things they do because of who they are, and the things they do because of what Watchtower has made them. It's tragic.
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  Finally sent that letter, but not to mom...

  by Odrade in

  1. jw
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  no not that letter.. so we hobbled along with the family relationship.

  my parents (super-devout, highly involved and connected in jw-land,) spoke with me occasionally with that sad mopey voice.

  at one point about 6 years ago, my mom quit speaking to me.

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  Sometimes I wonder if most "bravery" is just self-preservation turned into action.