pilot program for in-person meetings to resume, to be launched in hong kong in nov. 2021. only fully vaccinated publishers are to be invited.
it's going to be a fader's paradise.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/q9e9pg/and_so_it_begins/?%24deep_link=true&correlation_id=fb861c4a-8c7e-4bad-b1e3-4c86b3254daf&post_fullname=t3_q9e9pg&post_index=1&ref=email_digest&ref_campaign=email_digest&ref_source=email&utm_content=post_title&%243p=e_as&_branch_match_id=936859150293933406&utm_medium=email%20amazon%20ses.
Bump.
I think this is a big deal as it will create divisions among JW's as we see on every other social level. 'Brotherly love' for those who decide against the jab will go right out the window if the GB is flagrantly pro-jab and covid paranoid. Maybe potential disfellowshipping for 'apostasy' if a JW refuses the jab?? At least 'marking'??
so picture this, you are suddenly withdrawing troops after 2 decades in a country and, well, its all gone to shit.. how do you ensure that your vulnerable citizens and allies can get out when the airport is surrounded and no one can get through?.
option 1: it's a trick question surely?
you don't get yourself into this mess in the first place - you withdraw the citizens first, not last, duh!.
Biden is a puppet of the globalists and this Afghanistan blunder was completely planned as a part of globalist goals. A strong independent America is in the way of these goals. Unfortunately, globalism requires authoritarianism that is more easily attained with totalitarian communist governments such as China. The facts are clear that Biden is owned by China (as well as many US federal officials and big US corporations), but most big elite media also support the globalist fantasy, so nothing is said. President Trump stood for free American values, but way too many angry sheeple bought in to the ‘orangeman bad’ TDS syndrome and here we are 8 months later in chaos. Lock down America with Covid, but open the southern border wide to all comers and flood the US with foreign refugees. Take away guns to tighten control. Close North American oil production but buy overseas. Destroy faith in God, but cultivate faith in a global human government. It’s so obvious. Leftist hatred of Trump and a free America is identical to hatred spewed by JW’s of those who dare question their authoritarian leadership. Unfortunately, the leftist political hatred is much more dangerous to our collective freedom.
I’m sure you angry leftist will try to refute what I just posted- don’t bother. Your opinions are authoritarian nonsense and you know it.
i just watched that stupid talk by gary while e bro on not using a gun for self defense but it went deeper.
i was that you don't defend yourself against violence.
well ain't that great from an asshat living in a gated and guarded compound.
JW’s repeatedly make ‘black and white’ issues that are scripturally personal decisions. The right to defend oneself is a basic human right. I just visited my 70 something hard core elder/JW father and this subject came up. I asked him what he would do if his neighbor or he and my mother were attacked. Meekly stand there and beg for mercy from a violent evil animalistic human? Or perhaps defend himself with only his aged hands? Why hands but no gun?? 65 years a JW and he had no answer.
JW’s often refer to the Old Testament (Heb. Scriptures) to support their dogmatic rules. Well, the nation of Israel- with Jehovah’s help- not only defended themselves, but also initially offensively used weaponry to take the Promised Land. Later, Jesus did command Peter to return his sword to his place (live by the sword, die by the sword, Matt. 26:52), but this was a specific contextual situation. One is not ‘living by the sword’ simply by preparing to defend oneself or loved ones. Early on, Jesus sent the disciples out without money, food, or even a change of clothes, just a ‘staff’, emphasizing trust in the Holy Spirit (Mark 6:7-13). But the initial preaching was a short term message publicizing Jesus as the living prophesied Messiah. Was he also encouraging his disciples to not store food, save money, or even have more than one garment? Obviously not. Later (Luke 22:36) he acknowledged long term preparation was a must as after his death the preaching work focused on the good news of salvation through Jesus death in whatever the hereafter is.
In Romans 12:18, Paul said ‘If it is possible, be peaceable with all men.’ He tacitly acknowledged here that there would be times where it may not be possible to have peace.
Regardless, self-defense is a PERSONAL CHOICE. Those who attempt to make religious laws of matters that are personal Christian decisions are themselves wolves in the Christian congregation (Acts 20:29,30)
i have an honest question, so i hope someone will explain this to me to the best of their ability.
i'm fascinated with learning about religion!
and i've been looking for a place to ask this, believe me it wasn't an easy find.
Job 1:4 is translated 'his own set day' in many translations, referencing banquets Jobs sons would have. But the same exact Hebrew word in Job 3:1 is translated 'the day of his birth', even in the NWT.
JW's do talk about undue attention given to individuals, but will celebrate anniversary's and even have parties for boys going off to 'Bethel'. What's the difference? The fact that there are two instances where wicked people asked for macabre birthday presents doesn't mean that all birthday celebrations are an evil event.
Like so many other things, personal decisions- like the celebrations of birthdays- are turned into organizational edicts by JW's.
israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.
evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..
Pretty simple: If Palestinians lay down their arms, there will be peace. If Israelis lay down their arms, there will be no Israel.
on the 18th of september i turned in my disassociation letter in to the tigard congregation, 19 years ago.. my son turned in his letter in november 2001, 19 years ago shortly after me.
he was 21 years old.. two days ago we were working together on a wrap for his a/c unit on his bus.. out of blue, he says "i still miss it dad.
not the religion.
1234: Good post and all good comments!
I was born in and grew up totally immersed in the JW life, along with most of my extended family- I’m 3rd gen. Parents still hard core even in their 70’s and my wife’s in their 80’s. I started fading 20 years ago and left for good over 10 years ago, but I still miss some of the camaraderie, social things, and the feeling that we’re really a worldwide brother hood. Some of the good of living a basic Christian lifestyle and Christian community shine through even the JW’s (moral standards taught, community support within the group, etc). We’re human and like to be part of healthy groups.
It’s so sad that high control groups like JW’s abuse what should be a good thing to keep people in line. JW love and support is totally conditional and this becomes so obvious when one questions ANY JW policy. The Bible concept of Christian freedom under the umbrella of the ‘Golden Rule’ is crushed by many of the JW policies that should be personal choices.
It is hard to start over and make new friends, especially today with how divided and suspicious society in general has become. I have been able to have build a few pretty solid friendships though. I think being a long time conditioned JW permanently changes the way we look at people and that makes it tougher to build new relationships.
i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.
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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.
Min- I hope you're correct. I'm sick of all the anger out there. And this in a country where even the poorest have a full stomach and a roof over their heads if they're willing to put forth even minimal effort. The protesters really never have any cogent demands other than more handouts and special rights.
BTW- no one has ever answered my question: If America is so evil/bad/racist blah blah, WHY are so may people banging down the doors to get in here? Legally or illegally! You'd think that the loudmouths who talk about leaving when Trump got elected would actually have left. Nope.
i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.
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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.
@sir- Even under 8 years of Obama lurching America to a globalist/racist left, I NEVER marched/protested/or tore anything up. Despite my many disagreements with Obama, I still respected him as the President. My angry response now is simply one of self-defense and preservation for a free America. I don’t want to feel angry, but consider:
I thought it was great in 2008 that a man with black ancestry was elected president, and that this would prove that overall racism was dead and gone in America. Boy, was I wrong. I watched my taxes/health insurance go through the roof, and now I'm told that I'm a racist simply because I'm (mostly) white. And now America's amazing history has been turned upside down by leftists who love all the benefits this country provides, but hate the wisdom of the men who set it up. And also, the hypocritical drive to destroy the 2nd amendment, unless you are an elitist who ‘deserves’ special treatment. I agree with you in that the hypocrisy of the push left has me frustrated and angry.
Here's my answer: quit challenging and threatening conservative Americans with insults and violent 'protests' and you will never hear an angry word from law abiding, tax paying hard working people like myself. Leave my freedoms alone! Don’t ask for special treatment or a free ride, earn it yourself as folks like I have. Trump is a loud mouth, but he’s done great things for people of all races who chose to be Americans, NOT hyphenated-Americans.
AGAIN: binary choice- Trump for Americans of all backgrounds and support of our constitutional freedom, or Biden’s globalist chaos, racial divisiveness, big governmental control, and arrogant elitism. Pretty simple choice.
i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.
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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.
*a full stomach. Sorry I typed too fast...
i have to admit, this president can stir up shit.
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other than some people who failed 10th grade or have a confederate flag on the back of their pickup trucks, who actually likes him?.
Rub, point well taken. I'm sure you and I one and one would find common ground over a few drinks.
But I'm just tired of irresponsible people tearing down Trump and America. This is a great place to live. The only way to keep that way is to keep big government out of our way. Most of the loudest complainers have a place to live, and a stomach, entertainment etc. Just quit complaining, take some personal responsibility, and achieve something. Anyone can do it in America if they want to.
