Posts by sunny23

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

sunny23

A billboard message needs to be clear and focused and it just seems to vague. It's trying to make a claim without really saying anything concrete - almost the definition of a smear campaign.

If you had to make a billboard what would yours say? Its hard to fit in the reasons why 1914 is absurd, or blood transfusions are anti-biblical. It needs to be short, big lettered, provocative and intriguing. This makes it difficult to be so concrete, hence the website link, which I agree should not have a hyphen and be more memorable.

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

sunny23

do agree, theirs is directed more towards active JW's. I think it should look more like this so that non-jw's know who its addressed to and will be able to bring the topic up at the door when they come knocking:

Oh and here is the link to their final approved draft and fund page:

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ttatt-billboard-outside-belton-tx-jw-conventions

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Anti-JW billboard going up in Texas

by sunny23 in

the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on reddit and will be going up.

i'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any jw's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the wt and gb are not inspired or gods mouthpiece.

at the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the jw's who knock on their door: "so whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about i saw on the billboard down the road?

sunny23

The first ever billboard has been crowd funded on Reddit and will be going up. I'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any JW's who already have questions or doubts and lead them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the WT and GB are NOT inspired or Gods mouthpiece.

At the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the JW's who knock on their door: "So whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about I saw on the billboard down the road?" I think this could be effective!

$3,200 was the needed funds and it was achieved in less than a month. This is going up in TX but I would gladly contribute $$$ to one here in FL. Of course "our" billboard would have this site link along with JWFacts.com. I know Simon is against this type of "smear campaiging," but what are your thoughts? Do you see any value in this at all?

http://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/30yeon/operation_billboard_fundraising_to_go_live/

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I want to take them down

by cookiemaster in

hey guys!

some of you might know about my latest clash with the elders.

i see the pressure this cult is putting on my family.

sunny23

Actually the first ever billboard has been crowd funded on Reddit and will be going up. I'm curious to know if it will cause a spark in any JW's who already have questions or doubts and cause them to research into the child abuse cases and lead them to the thought that the WT and GB are NOT inspired or Gods mouthpiece. At the very least it will provide people a topic of conversation and questions to the JW's who knock on their door: "So whats this whole sex abuse in kingdom halls thing about I saw on the billboard down the road?" I think this could be effective! $3,200 was the needed funds and it was achieved in less than a month. This is going up in TX but I would gladly contribute $$$ to one here in FL. Of course "our" billboard would have this site link along with JWFacts.com.

http://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/30yeon/operation_billboard_fundraising_to_go_live/

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"In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

by nicolaou in

so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

sunny23

What do you know?

I know Fisherman doesn't like to answer questions ;)

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"In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

by nicolaou in

so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

sunny23

Fisherman, is there something outside of the voluntary and involuntary responses inside my body and organs keeping me alive and animating me right now? If so what is it?

Movement, Respiration, Sensitivity, Growth, Excretion, Reproduction, Nutrition can all be explained by physics and biology. You seem to suggest that I must first be "alive" before I can even carry out these processes. Define this "alive" state that exists prior to these processes being carried out please. Does exhibiting the processes define one as being "alive" or does being "alive" allow one to carry out the processes?

it is true that living organisms carry out the processes of life but they must be alive to do so -Fisherman

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"In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth . ."

by nicolaou in

so where did god exist before he created the heavens?

sunny23

Given a living creature and the same creature dead, the difference between them is the substance that "animates" them.

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Elders want to meet with us, help!

by All for show in

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friends

my husband is awake,yay!

we haven't been to meeting since february, although we attended the memorial.

when jws have called us we say we are amazing, everything is awesome much to their shock.

sunny23

Disagreeing with the Governing Body is equivalent to disagreeing with Jehovah God. Here is proof: WT Obedience Quotes

If you need to stay in the religion and maintain appearances then show a complete submissive attitude to the elders, align your thoughts and actions with them when in their presence and keep your personal opinions to yourself! Be careful.

However I do applaud you for what permanent positive impact you two may have had on the younger people you spoke to in order to encourage them to go to college. Perhaps in the future it will seem less persuasive of you to instead ask thought provoking questions and get other JW's to think critically rather than offer advice directly counter to WT teachings.

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JWs through the eyes of an eight year old

by maksutov in

my wife is a jw, and is teaching our eight year old daughter jw beliefs.

i am trying to teach her about evolution and critical thinking skills.

here is a conversation we had today (as best i can remember it):daughter: "why do bad things happen?

sunny23

You are doing an amazing job mak. I hope to have your level of composure and articulation when I have kids of my own. The first video posted on the first page is great. This one is a good preface to it but might be a little further over her head than the first but im sure you can re-word it easily for her and tell it in a different light..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdddbYILel0

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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

by Wasanelder Once in

"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

sunny23

I would love to answer the door naked and try to give them all hugs and welcome them inside with big smiles. Surely they would decline and leave rapidly after failed attempts to get me to clothe myself in my own house and probably never come back AND I would FINALLY be put on a permanent do not call list to prevent females from having their eyes burst in flames.