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Seeing Problem

by Undecided in

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about once a month i have a problem with my eyes, or probably the nerves controlling my eyesight.

i see something like an oval mark that is drawn up and down in a half circle.

it sometimes keeps me from seeing properly, depending where it is.

Blueblades

Ken, See an OPHTHALMOLOGIST. He/She deals with the branch of medicine concerning the structure, functions,and diseases of the eye. Blueblades

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Seeing Problem

by Undecided in

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about once a month i have a problem with my eyes, or probably the nerves controlling my eyesight.

i see something like an oval mark that is drawn up and down in a half circle.

it sometimes keeps me from seeing properly, depending where it is.

Ken, sometimes FLOATERS are the cause of this problem . Look up floaters on the net, for more info.However, when I had these irritating eye problems I went to an EYE specialist to check it out. Blueblades

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Eldersystem an error ?

by happy man in

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inn a tread down i see a very intrestring debatt about who this system was put in charge, and that it was r,f who was the creator.. i have very clear memory of when this system come and who we handel it.. we have to sitt and was sopposed to tell each other what was our good points, and what wrong we have, some brothers was wery hurt by this examination .. my expirense is that this is not a good system you dont have to read long on this site to find that terribel abuse have been done in the name of elder system.. perhaps this man who put this sytem in charge, was not from jehova, i think the issu is very well described of the sign down on this site.. it could bee intresting to hear what you here think of this, is the elder system an erreor?.

and what responsibility they have the creator or the creators?.

Blueblades

If they were appointed by HOLY SPIRIT! whatever that is? Why do they have to check with the CO., the WRITING DEPT., the LEGAL DEPT, the so-called GOVERNING BODY, and all the PUBLICATIONS, before they make a decision one way or the other.It seems to me, that If you had HOLY SPIRIT and you opened the BIBLE,and you prayed to the ONE who gave you that HOLY SPIRIT, you would be able to make a decision without having to ask every one else.The decision would be BIBLE- BASED backed up by GOD. Blueblades

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Letter read at Supplimentary Elder's School

by messenger in

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christian congregation

of jehovah's witnesses

2528 route 22

Blueblades

The Society use to have a saying,"If we stopped to kick every barking dog along the way,we will never get where we are going".My response to that is, not every barking dog is just making noise. Most if not all dogs,are doing what they do naturally.Watching out for danger and alerting either their master or the person walking by.So when the Society is walking along and they are warned of the big CHASM right in front, of their very next step,or, they are about to fall into a hole that they can never climb out of.Because they didn't stop, not to kick the barking dog, but to listen up to what the barking dog was warning about the danger just ahead,then they are still not going to get where they are going.So,according to their own saying,rather than pay attention to all the barking dogs out there,they have fell into a big CHASM,from which there is no return.Yes, they are in a hole so deep, they can never climb out.So much for their illustrations that have absolutely nothing to do with the issues of " CHILD ABUSE VICTIMS ". Blueblades

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One - sided presentation.

by Blueblades in

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one method of argumentation that the wt.society uses of the many that they do use is the "one - sided presentation".this is where contrary evidence is suppressed or ignored.for example:the watchtower jan 15,1991 pages 10 to 15,in the article,"teach publicly and from house to house".quotes from 15 one - sided sources in support of its position or argument.all of those sources are from christendom.i'll just name the sources and you can if you choose,look up the article for yourself.1)priest john allard.2)randolph o.yeager.3)abiel abbot livermore.4)wesleyan bible commentary,vol.4 pages( 642-643).5)scholar joseph addison alexander.6) scholar o.a.hills.7)bible scholar edwin w.rice.8)f.n.peloubet.9)j.glentworth butler.10)scholar e.s.

young.11)w. b. riley.12)e.m.blaiklock.13)j. herbert kane.14)oscar e.feucht.15)edward caldwell.

question 16, asks "even writers in christendom make what acknowledgement regarding christians and witnessing?

Blueblades

Also on pages 219 and 220 He states that .In the complete chart of "Witnessing Activity",some 150 separate incidents of "'witnessing"where the same incident was reported by more than one of the gospel writers, of the 150 incidents recorded only about 34 included any reference to a "house" or"home".In all the accounts, there is not a single instance that shows Jesus or any of his apostles or disciples calling from one door to the next door or even going from one house to another house.So the One-Sided argument with 15 different sources that the Watchtower uses fails when just one opposing argument is used to prove that they are not fair-minded or honest when trying to pressure the rank and file to do more from house to house.Rather than let them Witness from the heart anywhere at anytime unregulated without forced methods that were never intended by Jesus. Blueblades

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One - sided presentation.

by Blueblades in

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one method of argumentation that the wt.society uses of the many that they do use is the "one - sided presentation".this is where contrary evidence is suppressed or ignored.for example:the watchtower jan 15,1991 pages 10 to 15,in the article,"teach publicly and from house to house".quotes from 15 one - sided sources in support of its position or argument.all of those sources are from christendom.i'll just name the sources and you can if you choose,look up the article for yourself.1)priest john allard.2)randolph o.yeager.3)abiel abbot livermore.4)wesleyan bible commentary,vol.4 pages( 642-643).5)scholar joseph addison alexander.6) scholar o.a.hills.7)bible scholar edwin w.rice.8)f.n.peloubet.9)j.glentworth butler.10)scholar e.s.

young.11)w. b. riley.12)e.m.blaiklock.13)j. herbert kane.14)oscar e.feucht.15)edward caldwell.

question 16, asks "even writers in christendom make what acknowledgement regarding christians and witnessing?

Blueblades

One method of argumentation that the wt.society uses of the many that they do use is the "One - sided presentation".This is where contrary evidence is suppressed or ignored.For example:The Watchtower Jan 15,1991 pages 10 to 15,in the article,"Teach Publicly and from House to House".Quotes from 15 One - sided sources in support of its position or argument.All of those sources are from christendom.I'll just name the sources and you can if you choose,look up the article for yourself.1)Priest John Allard.2)Randolph O.Yeager.3)Abiel Abbot Livermore.4)Wesleyan Bible Commentary,Vol.4 Pages( 642-643).5)Scholar Joseph Addison Alexander.6) Scholar O.A.Hills.7)Bible Scholar Edwin W.Rice.8)F.N.Peloubet.9)J.Glentworth Butler.10)Scholar E.S. Young.11)W. B. Riley.12)E.M.Blaiklock.13)J. Herbert Kane.14)Oscar E.Feucht.15)Edward Caldwell. Question 16, Asks "Even writers in Christendom make what acknowledgement regarding Christians and Witnessing?"Now there is a big difference between the meaning of the words Witnessing and House to House.Witnessing is what one would do at anytime ,anywhere.House to House is the organized method that the article is trying to support using a One-Sided argument all from Christendom.Now let me give you just one opposing argument to this One-Sided argument.Read Ray Franz's book," IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM".Chapter 7.From House to House.Ray makes a powerful case that the Watchtower, while"saying" they believe in salvation by grace, actually preaches that door- to-door literature distribution and other good works are in effect necessary for eternal life. Blueblades

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Abraham's Children

by Blueblades in

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this morning on the radio,a rabbi talked about abraham's children.

he said the jews and arabs are abraham's children.i didn't understand what he was getting at.history has shown that they are common enemies.this hatred has gone on ever since ishmael and issac had two different mothers.hagar and sarah.both men would father great nations that would be in rivalry throughout history.that is of course if you believe the bible history vs.secular history.my thought is that there has always been races of people and nationalities that have always been common enemies,throughout the world and its history.

why would it be any different between the jews and the arabs.i understand the rabbi's concern for peace between the two peoples.

Blueblades

This morning on the radio,a Rabbi talked about Abraham's Children. He said the Jews and Arabs are Abraham's Children.I didn't understand what he was getting at.History has shown that they are common enemies.This hatred has gone on ever since Ishmael and Issac had two different Mothers.Hagar and Sarah.Both men would Father great nations that would be in rivalry throughout history.That is of course if you believe the bible history vs.secular history.My thought is that there has always been Races of people and Nationalities that have always been common enemies,throughout the world and its history. Why would it be any different between the Jews and the Arabs.I understand the Rabbi's concern for peace between the two peoples. Blueblades

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NEW LIGHT - Watchtower Quotes

by UnDisfellowshipped in

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below are watchtower quotes about new light!.

i would love to hear everyone's comments (including current jehovah's witnesses).. you can distribute these quotes freely!.

i got these quotes from http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com which is the best watchtower quotes website on the internet!.

Blueblades

The secret elders rule book:On page. 232 of the Proclaimers book,there is a picture of the Pay Attention book.So, that it exists is no secret.Of course its been on the internet.But for those rank and file members they can see the picture of it in the Proclaimers book.This has been brought to our attention before.Just repeating it for those who may have missed it.Blueblades

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