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  Does Bible Prophecy Really Matter ?

  by Blueblades in

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  what is the intent of bible prophecy?

  is it to inform us or, is it's intent to change us?do you read every prophectic text in it's context?.

  outside of the wt.society's failure to interpret bible prophecy,can you name a prophecy that is having an impact on you right now causing information from that prophecy to change you.. does bible prophecy really matter to you in the everyday things as we go on with our lives?.

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  What is the intent of Bible Prophecy? Is it to inform us or, is it's intent to change us?Do you read every Prophectic text in it's context?

  Outside of the WT.Society's failure to interpret Bible Prophecy,can you name a Prophecy that is having an impact on you right now causing information from that Prophecy to change you.

  Does Bible Prophecy Really Matter to you in the everyday things as we go on with our lives?

  Many persons have made life and death decisions based upon what they have come to believe about Bible Prophecy having an effect on their lives.

  Has this happened to you? And have you been disappointed because of it?

  Blueblades
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  Beth Sarim - Do The Local Dubs Visit The Current Residents?

  by Stephanus in

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  or do they avoid it like the plague?

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  Beth Sarim,built in 1929 and sold in 1948.( House of Princes ).Adjoining Beth Sarim but separated by a half--mile width of canyon was Beth Shan ( House of Security ).

  Beth Shan had a Bomb Shelter.Yet they said that they trusted in the Lord for protection before a judge when asked about Japan bombing that area.Building a Bomb Shelter for a select few tells the real truth.

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  Allergy Sufferers, How do you cope?

  by Sentinel in

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  seems like the pollen count is way up there in our area, due to tree pollen right now.

  but, if it isn't tree pollen, it's grass, etc.

  for me, and then ragweed in the fall.

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  I have never taken anything for my mine.The first hour in the morning is my worst,sneezing and runny nose.Then it's gone for the rest of the day?I'm thinking my immune system is dealing with it little by little over the years.

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  2003 DISTRICT CONVENTION OF JW'S ?

  by Blueblades in

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  from the authorized site of the office of public information:.

  in turbulent times dominated by fear and insecurity,those who attend the 200 upcoming three and four day programs of bible education in some 62 cities across the united states can expect to be spiritually refreshed and rejuvenated.. jw's 2003 d.c.will carry the theme"give god glory".. does anyone know why there are three days and then four days in different cities?will they cram four days of spiritually refreshing and rejuvenating programs of bible education into three days in some cities and then stretch it into four days in some other cities?.

  are they also talking about their" own "turbulent times dominated by fear and insecurity.. blueblades

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  From the authorized site of The Office of Public Information:

  In turbulent times dominated by fear and insecurity,those who attend the 200 upcoming three and four day programs of Bible Education in some 62 cities across the United States can expect to be Spiritually Refreshed and Rejuvenated.

  JW'S 2003 D.C.will carry the theme"GIVE GOD GLORY".

  Does anyone know why there are three days and then four days in different cities?Will they cram four days of Spiritually Refreshing and Rejuvenating programs of Bible Education into three days in some cities and then stretch it into four days in some other cities?

  Are they also talking about their" OWN "Turbulent Times dominated by Fear and Insecurity.

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  ON MARCH 26,1918 SATAN WAS HURLED DOWN TO THE EART

  by minimus in

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  according to the your will be done book ..."there is scriptural reason to believe that by the time of the annual celebration of the lord's evening meal on march 26, 1918, satan the devil was hurled down to the earth.

  "now this must have been quite the war, since we are taught that by october 1 or 2 1914, satan was waging war with michael and he was thrown to the vicinity of the earth.

  that is why since 1914 we have such a short time left.....how do they get these crazy dates and how can people believe this if they really think about it?

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  Who was it that hurled satan down Michael or Jesus?
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  What About The Soul?

  by Francois in

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  i don't recall that we've ever gotten into this issue; maybe we did and i just don't remember.

  if so, it won't hurt to revisit it; if not, it's way past time that we did.. we were all trained to believe that humankind does not have a soul, but that we are souls.

  this teaching came from the spiritual geniuses abiding at jw headquarters in brooklyn, likely assisted by their undefined "spirit-led" descision making activities and with help from someone's secret decoder ring with the secret compartment.. personally, i have 86-ed that particular piece of nonsense a long time ago.

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  Hi Francois! I myself have come to no conclusions about the soul.I would like to hear your thoughts on what I read in Ray Franz's book "In Search of Christian Freedom"on page 706,707.

  He gives the example that the common view among many about the human soul is described by S.C.Guthrie,professor at Columbia Theological Seminary(a Presbyterian institution),in this manner:

  According to this doctrine only my body can die,but I myself do not really die.My body is only the shell of my true self.It is not me;it is only the earthly-physical prison in which the real"I" is trapped.My true self is my soul,which,because it is spiritual and not physical,is like God and therefore shares God's immortality ( inability to die).What happens at death,then,is that my immortal soul escapes from my mortal body.My body dies,but I myself live on and return to the spiritual realm from which I came and to which I really belong.

  Having said this,this respected theologian then goes on to state:If we hold to the genuinely Bibilical hope for the future,we must firmly reject this doctrine of the soul's immortality for several reasons.

  He then proceeds to detail those reasons from Scripture.Before doing so,however,he discusses the origin of the belief he first described,stating:

  This doctrine( of the soul's inherent immortality) was not taught by the biblical writer's themselves,but it was common in the Greek and Oriental religions of the ancient world in which the Christian church was born.Some of the earliest Christian theologians were influenced by it,read the Bible in the light of it and introduced it into the thinking of the church.It has been with us ever since,influencing even the reformed confessions.(see the Westminster Confessions,XXXII; the Belgic Confession,Art XXXVII).

  Ray himself goes on to say:I present this neither as conclusive nor as a view that all should accede to.To determine whether that view is convincing one would have to read and weigh the validity of his Biblical reasons,which I have not included.

  While one could find scores of other scholars who express the same viewpoint as this particular theologian,their numbers or their reputation are not decisive;one can similarly find theologians of repute who argue for a different,contrary view.

  My purpose here is not to argue the validity of the view expressed but soley to show that,though there might be the inclination to reject it out of hand as the product of"cult thinking",there are in fact reputable scholars who express that viewpoint.

  Francois,this one of the reasons I am not able to come to any conclusion,yet, on this all important subject you have raised about the SOUL!

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  Man's Search For Meaning.

  by Blueblades in

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  i just finished reading victor e. frankl's book,"man's search for meaning".at the core of his theory is the belief that man's primary motivational force is his search for meaning.. the american journal of psychiatry says this about the book,"unconditional faith in an unconditional meaning is dr.frankl's message to the reader".. for myself,i did not find closure in man's search for meaning.dr.frankl also wrote,"the unheard cry for meaning"and "the unconscious god"which i will read next in hopes of finding some kind of closure in my search for meaning.. what about you,have you found closure in your search for meaning?if so, would you please share it with me, and anyone else who might be interested in this subject,thank you.. blueblades

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  I just finished reading Victor E. Frankl's book,"Man's Search For Meaning".At the core of his theory is the belief that man's primary motivational force is his search for meaning.

  The American Journal of Psychiatry says this about the book,"Unconditional Faith in an unconditional meaning is Dr.Frankl's message to the reader".

  For myself,I did not find closure in man's search for meaning.Dr.Frankl also wrote,"The Unheard Cry for Meaning"and "The Unconscious God"which I will read next in hopes of finding some kind of closure in my search for meaning.

  What about you,have you found closure in your search for meaning?If so, would you please share it with me, and anyone else who might be interested in this subject,thank you.

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  JW's in the cinema

  by berten in

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  there is this funny anecdote i remember from my jw days that i would like to tell:.

  in the mid seventies there was a french movie released over here about .

  the story of david & goliath,and some jw's of our congregation wanted to see it.. now this movie of which i forgot the title was nothing special but as is usual .

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  The movie,TITANIC,was frowned on by the circuit overseer,he said that the nude painting scene and the the fornication scene in the foggy car was taboo for the friends.
  
  How did he know this?
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  The "Times Of The Gentiles"

  by rocketman in

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  luke 21:24 reads, in the american standard version: "and jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled".

  the nwt refers to this period, as we all know, as the "appointed times of the nations".. i've always wondered about the application of this verse, even when i was a jw elder.

  the society applies the beginning these "times" to the destruction of jerusalem by the babylonians in 607 bce (according to jw understanding, of course).

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  I tried it again and its not working ,puzzled???????
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  The "Times Of The Gentiles"

  by rocketman in

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  luke 21:24 reads, in the american standard version: "and jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled".

  the nwt refers to this period, as we all know, as the "appointed times of the nations".. i've always wondered about the application of this verse, even when i was a jw elder.

  the society applies the beginning these "times" to the destruction of jerusalem by the babylonians in 607 bce (according to jw understanding, of course).

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  Hi Rocket! I suggest that you read Carl Olof JONSSON"S book."The Gentile Times Reconsidered".Chapter One is entitled "The History of an Interpretation".page 23. Here is an excerpt from it."All ideas have a beginning.People who believe in an idea,however,are often completely unaware of it's background,origin and development. Ignorance of that history may strengthen the conviction that the idea is true,even when it is not,As happens in other cases,this ignorance may provide fertile soil for fanaticism. True knowledge of the historical development of an idea does not necessarily disprove it,but such knowledge does enable us to improve our judgment of its validity. A clear example of an idea--in this case,an interpretation--that is obscured by ignorance is a widely-held concept concerning the "Gentiles Times" Referred To by Christ at LUKE 21:24. Millions of persons internationally have come to accept the belief that this prophetic statement definitely points to and is linked with a specific date in the twentieth century and they even build their present plans and future hopes on that belief.What is its history?" Blueblades