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  Anybody have any "REAL" experiences of spirit/demon activity? I'll explain.

  by runForever in

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  i know there is a lot of people on here that will say it is pure make believe but i am interested if anybody has had any real concrete things happen such as something moving or something appearing in the mirror etc.. anything just post it up here even if it wasn't much.

  please give a little context as to the situation..

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  I took a lady friend to a Pentecostal Church one time. While being prayed over she manifested demons. Everyone was escorted out of the Church but the elders. After a while they called for me because I was the only one who knew her.

  First of all she was a really big lady. When I came back into the Church she slid all the way down the pew and all the way back. I have never seen her move so freely. Then I saw her face.... it changed in a way the disturbed me greatly. You know how you feel if you smell vomit? How just the smell can make you sick? Looking at her face was the same thing. It made my spirit sick. As a matter of fact this feeling stayed with me for awhile afterwords. I don't even want to talk about her voice changed and all the crazy things that came out of her mouth.We prayed with her for probably and hour or more and she found some relief.

  I don't know what I saw. It wasn't staged, and this lady had no expectations prior to going to Church as a matter of fact she seldom went. Maybe all I saw was a physiological disturbance... but what ever it was disturbed me greatly.
  
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  EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

  is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

  what exactly makes someone a christian?

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  For me there is two answers... first you have the trinity (big debate and don't want to go into that right now) and secondly you have the Lords Supper.

  The Bible is VERY clear Christians eat the bread and wine in remembrance to him. It IS the new convenient. It takes the place of Passover for Christians.

  If you partake you are Christian.... if you don't you aren't.
  
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  Epigenetics and Why Women are Stripey

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  take five minutes to learn something new today.... here is a very brief introduction to epigenetics with an interesting practical example.. ....

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  Don't want to distract the conversation to much but....

  I have had a hard time imagining 6 billion letters of genetic code having evolved over the last 5 billion years... actually it is worse than that... Scientists would say modern life as we know it only goes back 500 million years. The complexity just boggles my mind.

  Another thing that is fascinating to me... As far as I know genetics is digital NOT analog. The implication is that the information came first. DNA is just a representation of that information. If it was analog it would be much easier to say the DNA came first then the information came second.
  
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  "--want to survive Armageddon?-- the start partaking--

  by prologos in

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  2. humour

  jesus: the gt will be cut short for the sake of the "chosen ones" the sealed anointed).

  unless those days are cut short no flesh will be saved.

  how can you be saved without being a chosen one, be a chosen one without partaking?.

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  little_Socrates

  John 6
  

  48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness, yet they died. 50 But here is the bread that comes down from heaven, which anyone may eat and not die. 51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”

  In all of the new testament nobody ever left Jesus because his teaching was to difficult... until you get to the teaching about the last supper. Never in all of the new testament does Jesus EVER repeat himself except in this passage and he says the same thing over and over like 6 times. Also of note... this is the first evidence of Judas turning away from Jesus.

  Jesus very clearly says my flesh is real. If you eat it you will live forever, if you don't you won't.
  
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  Why did Jesus have to die?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's think about this for a bit.

  adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.

  he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.

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  jws... the way I see it, Jesus didn't die to sate God's wrath, God is in need of nothing.

  Jesus had to die for US. We had to see the humanity of God. It was done to woo our hearts. It is the answer to the question "why do good people suffer". It was to give value to suffering. God could not partake in something that has no good. Simply by Christ suffering... our own suffering also becomes a redemptive act.

  God looked down at humanity and saw the suffering he was moved by pity and decided to join himself with our suffering.
  
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  Why did Jesus have to die?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's think about this for a bit.

  adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.

  he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.

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  CalebinFlorida... thank you for the well thought out response. I learn a lot from your posts.

  Yes those passages have a different meaning for Jewish people. However, are you certain that the understanding that the Hebrews had was a complete understanding? Maybe the passage was meant to have one meaning for the people of the day... but then a much greater understanding at a later date?

  If you believe in divine inspiration, is it crazy to think that a passage of scripture was meant to have a different meaning for different people?
  
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  Why did Jesus have to die?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's think about this for a bit.

  adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.

  he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.

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  Bonsai have you ever read C.S.Lewis? He has some great thoughts on this in his space trilogy. His claim is that God sending Jesus was a much greater plan than just eliminating sin. It is only because of our sinfulness that we can truly know Gods mercy. Our curse of original sin became a blessing, through the redemptive work of Jesus.
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  Why did Jesus have to die?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
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  let's think about this for a bit.

  adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.

  he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.

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  little_Socrates

  CalebinFloroda...

  You say there is no mention or prophesy of a personal savior in Hebrew texts? How would you interpret these passages?
  

  Isaiah 53

  Psalms 22
  
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  Why did Jesus have to die?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's think about this for a bit.

  adam was tempted and sinned by eating of the fruit.

  he missed out on immortality by being denied the tree of life.

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  little_Socrates

  Christ had to die so that God could be like us in all things. It was the ultimate form of empathy from a loving God. Instead of relieving all our suffering... He joined himself to that suffering.
  
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  Well written, scathing article that summarises first 3 days of RC hearing.

  by Pants of Righteousness in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's been quite a number newspaper articles quoted over the past week, but i would recommend this as a good summary of the first three days of the royal commission hearing in australia - complete with some scathing commentary.. apologies if this has been posted elsewhere, but have not seen this posted previously.. https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2015/08/01/royal-commission-examines-jehovah-witnesses-cover/14383512002194.

  just one thing that is not quite right is that the article refers to joe bello as a narrogin elder.

  the assualts took place while the victim was part of the narrogin congregation.

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  I was impressed with how well the author understood JW teaching and yet was still very respectful considering how horrible the allegations are. He just presented the facts and allows the reader to draw their own conclusions.