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  Found this discussion on mumsnet - Jehovah's Witnesses trying to convert vulnerable people

  by Je.suis.oisif in

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  title says it all really.

  not techie enough to supply link.

  but, if you google .

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  little_Socrates

  I posted a comment on a very similar thing...

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/378260001/how-do-you-deal-anxiety
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

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  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  I want to comment on this from a slightly different angle but nontheless related. That os the jw inherent mindset of absolute roght and prilidge to be at your door.-Morpheous

  While I did say it had little to do with the cult.... this factor does matter. If I had ran into these people in public with there strong fragrance, I would have considered it in no way rude, I would have just tried to avoid them. Since they insisted on coming to my door, THAT is what made it rude

  If the JW was stinking of body odour you would have reason to complain.-cofty

  Cofty it is obvious you have no idea what you are talking about on this issue. You need to count your blessings! I react to body odor just like the next guy... but that reaction is NOTHING like the reaction to certain strong chemical fragrances. You need need to thank your higher power that you have never experienced what I have. If you could understand even the slightest bit of what people like I experience.... you would show much more compassion.
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  Yes it is a first world problem. Humans where never designed/evolved to deal with modern chemical fragrances. I really believe I am like the canary in the mine.

  Most of the chemicals we deal with on a daily basis are bad for us! People like me just tend to react to them quicker and stronger than others.
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  Really? You think it's "totally callous" to wear deodorant or perfume just in case you happen to bump into the one in a million people who happen to find it gives them a sore head?-cofty

  Yes and YOU are a perfect example Cofty! You won't even listen to what I have to say. Never did I say no one could ever wear fragrances. All I am asking for is some consideration and some moderation. If you can't even hear that request YES YOU ARE CALLOUS.
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  Steve... my reaction had very little to do with them being JWs. In a weird way I sometimes actually enjoy the visits. I like to talk abut religious/spiritual issues with who ever will talk with me.

  I would have reacted that day the same regardless of who the people at the door where representing. A repair man, a door to door salesmen, or even friends.

  Yes my tone was sharp... but I don't know how else to express the seriousness of this issue. Some people have no idea that this is an important issue for people. If nobody tells them, they will never know.

  Yes I do have some pent up aggression when dealing with this... but I think it is a totally appropriate response to the total callousness of so many people.

  I am only posting it here because it involved JW's but the real issue had very little to do with the cult.
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  Thank you for you consideration Kate....

  If you are going into a public space with good air ventilation do what every you want with your fragrance. However if you are going into someones personal space, or if you will be in a confined space with poor ventilation for a period of time... please show moderation. (Church tends to be one of the worse places.... you have to share space for an hour or more and often the air circulation is poor)
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  Kate as long as you use a very reasonable amount I would probably be okay with it.

  What is wrong with this rule.... Your personal fragrances should not be noticeable outside of your own personal space. Am I being unreasonable here?
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  The only way to avoid fragrances it to not breathe.

  That is not an option!
  
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  For a Migraine suffer even if you are not in a headache.... strong chemical scents can cause overwhelming pain! Unfortunately your sense of smell is connected to your emotional part of your brain on a deep level. So it affects you very very deeply.

  Virtually everybody has some sensitives... For some it is scent, others visual, others it will be touch and other ir might be sound, others it is motion (car sickness) Even though most people experience some sensitivities they are completely callous to people who experience difference sensitives.

  What If my OP had said JW's came to my door, and when I answered it they flashed a laser light in my eyes... Or what at if I said as soon as I opened the door they started playing extremely loud music. Or what if I said they constantly touched me after I opened the door.

  I am sure if I had used any of those previous examples... I would have tons of support. All of those things are rude and unacceptable. What you have to understand... even though you as well are sensitive to those sensations.

  How come when it comes to lights and sound and touching we have to be polite... but not when it comes to fragrances. If some one shines a bright light in your eyes you can close your eyes. If noise is too loud, you can put in ear plugs. If touch bothers you you can move away from the offender.
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  Intersting Visit from our local JWs yesturday

  by little_Socrates in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  way to early on a saturday morning we got a ring on our doorbell.

  someone else answered the door.

  after they left i walked by our entry way and gagged from the smell!

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  little_Socrates

  rebelfighter thank you for your support.

  Unfortunately it is obvious in this thread that the vast majority people have NO IDEA how severe a fragrance sensitivity can be. Since you have never experienced it you are cold to other peoples complaints. Well maybe you say well I am sensitive also... but I deal with it so you must as well. If you have that attitude there is no way in the world you understand my plight (mine doesn't sound nearly as severe as rebelfighter).

  You overwhelm me with the wrong scent... I will be sick for DAYS. No sorry I will not just "deal with it".