Back in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according
to, The Guinness Book of Records , Freddy Franz, was listed as one of
the seven, most intelligent , men in the world. Dose anyone else
remember this? I remember trying to look it up, but never found anything
in print, and iI point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had
told about it, and he wouldn't lie!
DwainBowman
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Freddy Franz, One of the smartest men of his day????
by DwainBowman inback in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according to, the guinness book of records , freddy franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world.
dose anyone else remember this?
i remember trying to look it up, but never found anything in print, and ii point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had told about it, and he wouldn't lie!
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JW elder in Oklahoma, USA...now in JAIL!
by Sugar Shane inronald lawrence has been in the news before, though it was believed that the statute of limitations would keep him from being charged as a criminal.
i stumbled across this the other day.
trey bundy did a report on one of ronald's victims, but it looks as though more have stepped forward since.
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New news item!!!! This is from today! Feb 15th 2016
The top leadership of the Jehovah’s Witness worldwide organization could face criminal charges in a cover-up of alleged child sexual abuse.
Ronald Lawrence
The District 18 District Attorney’s Office in the State of Oklahoma filed a motion on Jan. 28, 2014 in the case of accused molester Ronald Lawrence that alleges the top leadership of the Jehovah’s Witness Church knew about claims of child rape and molestation and deliberately concealed them.
“The actions of the church, their banishment of Lawrence on one or more occasion and the directives of the governing body toward the victims and their family members regarding these crimes were actions of concealment and further actions preventing the victims from reporting the crimes to law enforcement,” the motion states.
In November 2013, Ronald Lawrence a former church elder was charged in Pittsburg County Oklahoma District Court with 19 felony counts, including 11 of molestation, seven of forcible sodomy, and one of rape by instrumentation against two preteen girls and one 5-year-old boy.
The Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses is accused of giving directives to congregation elders to conceal the accusations. The Governing Body is made up of eight senior male members of the church, and provides leadership and direction to the roughly 8 million Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide.
“As a group we applaud this action by the District Attorney’s office and hope that justice is served and the victims are finally given the help that they need,” stated Richard Kelly, a former Jehovah’s Witness who is now the managing director of the organization, Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses or AAWA. “The top leadership of this religious group has made a concerted effort to conceal child molestation within the organization. It is heartening to see that they will be held accountable.”
Cases similar to this have been filed in recent years including the notable Candace Conti suit in California which the Jehovah’s Witness organization lost. However, to the AAWA’s knowledge, this is the first time that the top leaders of a religious organization have been named in such a case.
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My cat died suddenly!
by Fisherman ini did not realize that they were symptoms that something was wrong with my cat -but i did notice that my cat was breathing a little differently for a period of about a few days.
i also noticed prior and after to that, that on occasion, my cat would cry at the litter box, but that was a very seldom event.. anyway, about a week ago i noticed the symptom that my very loved cat was breathing heavy.
so i called a taxi and i was going to rush him to emergency room for cats.
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House cats often get a blockade in the UI track, if not treated leads to death. They will be in lots of pain, while trying to pee, but can't. Throwing up, is not unusual. It happens more in male cats, but can be in either. The cat food we feed them, needs to be for inside cats, and brands like Iams, tend to be best. Indoor out door cats are far less likely to have this problem, but they still can!
I am so very sorry, I know how much it hurts!
Dwain
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Leaked Elder's Video: How to deal with a suicidal sister
by cappytan inthis video will be played at one of the clam meetings in march 2016.. the content is kind of old news because it is a recut version of a previous video produced for the elder's school.
however, it's still significant because it shows that the organization still has dissenting brothers in positions of leadership.. my thanks to the leaker.
feel free to claim credit here.
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That's about the worst thing I have ever seen!
The only thing they did for me, was almost push, me right back over the edge, that I was stuggling, to get away from!
Dwain
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It's not "new light" anymore it's "new lies" .
by truth doubter inthis is my first post.
i never dreamed i'd be on a site like this.
i was baptized 43 years ago and pretty much have done and seen it all.
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Welcome! I like having long timers around as well! This makes 45 yesrs since I was dunked, back in 1971!
Dwain
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Brooklyn Brownstoner article: Reader Unearths Fascinating 1969 Letter About Then-New Jehovah’s Witnesses HQ
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.brownstoner.com/blog/2016/01/jehovah-witness-history-brooklyn-squibb-1969-donations/.
reader unearths fascinating 1969 letter about then-new jehovah’s witnesses hq.
by barbara eldredge 1/25/16.
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I was 11 in 69, I remember the letter or two asking for money to help with the Financials to buy the Squibb building. And I so remember that letter being read! -
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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!
by redpilltwice inwell, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
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brokethechains. Thane's for your reply!!!!!
I live in the Central part of the USA as well. Here's to the best for you!!!
Dwain
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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!
by redpilltwice inwell, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
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BtC, You have painted two totally different pictures of yourself.
One df'ed and never went back.
The other, a borg "spritual " giant, that woke up, and stepped off the stage, afters years of "Privilege" and walked away, pretty much without question.
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The wonderful things you hear AFTER you step down as an elder!
by redpilltwice inwell, well, that was quite a heartfelt welcome on this site four days ago.
thank you all for the encouraging replies.
one of them was this one from magnum: "hey now, don't just pop your head in and disappear.
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I love this thread! I was really close to an elder, for years, and worked for him sometimes. We were so close, he often confided in me often. He hated the politics behind the curtain of unity, that all bodies of eldubs are required to profess to the sheeple's.
Some of things we talked about, should have opend my eyes long ago, but I was like everyone else, blind! One that now sticks out in my mind, is how often he warned me against, questioning anything about the borg, to others, but that I could always talk to him. That should have been enough to Open my eyes wide!
Someone earlier said their dad "stepped aside" as an eldub. Sadly this was and is one more borg enforced joke, to try and make it seem as if there are no "Classes" in the borg, that were all just equal sheeple! That's one of the biggest lies of all! I have known so many eldubs, and over the years I was taken into the back room twice, and informed me that I had been appointed, and turned it down. In one of those times, the two, but pointed out, how differnt it is to be included in their boys club, and how many advantages come with it! Just look at some of the powerful well connected eldubs, they iften get away with pretty much anything, as long as the stuff stays in the club. I saw some pretty powerful ones taken down after years of keeping other's quite, until somehow it started leaking out to the sheeple's. Even then, sometimes a few years later they are back, welcomed back to the club.
How many "Classes" are there?
The peon, publisher class.
The Aux, peon-neers*
The Reg, peon-neers*
The Bethellites - held out to be really special to the common sheeple's
The MS, Straw Boss peons
The Eldub's, the first class with any real powers.
The CO's
Above this point, it gets really shady, because there are so many different powers that be!
And on top, the gooberning body!
*These two groups, are really four, when you taken in the fact, male and female, are treated differently!
Dwain
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Dam it, I missed it!
by DwainBowman ini missed the jw, history making, all new mid week meeting!
and i am just so torn up over it, i've had a few drinks to drown my deep sorrow in, missing such a once in a lifetime event!.
oh how can i ever get over, such a lost opportunity like that, just don't know if i'll never get over it!.
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You guys are great! My eldub, said I just can't believe you missed the first new history making jw event! My reply was, do you know how many, "history" makings jw events, I been to, that NO ONE remembers! I got the deer in the headlights stare!
How many, earth shaking, resolution, have so many of us set and clapped for over the past fifty years? Dose anyone remember a single one, past the dc being over? Except when they wrre rehashed in the wt!
And how about the so called pouring out of the 7 bowls, rutherford braged about, never amounted to anything, but to fill his pockets, and swell his head even more! How fitting they took place at an amusement park!
Dwain
