How do we know Muslims or Jews don't have the right religion?
Viviane
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The Great Crowd Catch 22
by Perry injust had a two hour conversation with my father.
he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.
he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.
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A question for Athiests.
by new hope and happiness ini am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.
some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.
i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.
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Viviane
When I point out the inherent contradiction in this position--that being an "atheist" means not believing God, therefore they are angry at nothing--they generally get upset.
So that person is not an atheist, they just have a poor vocabulary.
Next time look the word up before you use it..
Outlaw, if, as we can see below, an oxymoron is a firgure of speech that is contradictory, it's consistent with the idea of an oxymoron even not necessarily keeping with the strict terms of what makes up a "figure of speech". As we can see above, those claiming to be atheists AND angry with God aren't atheists, they just have a poor vocabulary, much like those claiming to believe in personal liberty and smaller government while at the same time saying the government should make homosexuality illegal. noun noun: oxymoron ; plural noun: oxymorons
- a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g., faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).
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A question for Athiests.
by new hope and happiness ini am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.
some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.
i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.
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Viviane
Outlaw, do you have any examples of atheists that are angry with God, that actually believe but claim otherwise due to their anger?
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World Population Since Creation?
by objectivetruth inmatthew 20:28 - "just as the son of man came, not to be ministered to, but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange of many".
the word "many" here means :.
4183 polys many (high in number); multitudinous, plenteous, "much"; "great" in amount (extent).. 4183 /polys ("much in number") emphasizes the quantity involved.
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Viviane
All Jesus is creepy. Your's doesn't get a pass.
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The Great Crowd Catch 22
by Perry injust had a two hour conversation with my father.
he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.
he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.
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Viviane
Please pray for the salvation of my mom and dad.
I hope bothof you realize what a crock your imaginary friends are and how awful your belief in them makes you. Only then will you have the opportunity to be a decent person not praying for the deaths of billions.
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Your body is your PRIMARY TEACHER (a God-appointed channel is nowhere in the picture)
by Pinku inbalance is the natural state of your body and is maintained by moderation in your habits such as sleep, work, eating, entertainment and thinking.
(mathew7:12; 5:13-16; proverbs 25:16, 27; 1 cor 6:12; 8:9; philippians 4:5) your body sends signs of distress when you cross the limit.. this is true even in subtler areas too.
contrary to the popular notion that happiness or peace come from accumulating things, body teaches it comes from renunciation.
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Viviane
WTF is it about religion, Jesus and imaginary friends that makes people so utterly ridiculously stupid?
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Jesus is the Problem-"Christian Parents (not JWs) kick their son out for being Gay
by fulltimestudent injesus had nothing to say - for or against, homosexuality.
yet in his name, ignorant 'christian' parents will shun their children.
and jesus does not interfere.
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Viviane
Jesus didn't say anything about homosexuality because the Jews didn't practice homosexuality.
That's hilarious, that you think there weren't any gay Israelites. The reason there was a proibition against it is that people were doing it!
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Science and Philosephy.- God
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inwhen i discovered ervs and #2 chromosome i knew there was no personal god.
the rest is history.
i have always since kept updated in science as much as possible.. .
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Viviane
Was trying to say that with formation there is equal destruction. There have been literally entire galaxies that have disintegrated. Stars form and others burn out. Some stars are devoured by black holes and spit out as gamma rays that hit the earth. Therefore the universe isn't becoming more complex, its doing the same thing it has always done since the beginning. You tried to use formation of stars to dismiss this.
Despite the fact that your claim is, thus far, utterly untrue, you are now following the discussion method of the average scientific woo mixologist. Take a little science, mix in a little woo, talk using sciency sounding words and every time your woo is shown to not make sense or be outright wrong, change the subject or change what you meant.
So, on the subject of complexity, right now, and since it's formation, the universe has become more complex according to all observable data. Ultimately, according to all mathematical models, it will untilmately reach entropy of 1. That fits exactly what I wrote and has nothing to do with local phenomenon you use in an attempt to prove there is a lack of complexity.
State your point clearly with your backing information and then let's discuss.
I was trying to use dark matter the same way that theists have used the unknown details of Gravity to imply a God, however on further thought its no different.
I am not sure how to parse that sentence.
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Science and Philosephy.- God
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inwhen i discovered ervs and #2 chromosome i knew there was no personal god.
the rest is history.
i have always since kept updated in science as much as possible.. .
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Viviane
I thought the current consensus was that all the matter in the universe we see and feel was made right at the Big Bang. Matter is not still being created, its just transforming just like they teach us in school: energy doesn’t get created or destroyed, it only transforms or conserves (conservation of energy).
What does that have to do with the formation atoms, stars, planets and life?
Sure, light is technically physical and many used to believe light from the sun was a phenomenon (a god or super power/miracle of sorts).
Light is 100% physical, not technically.
Humans can manipulate matter and convert neutrons to protons.
That happens all the time naturally, it's called beta decay.
Perhaps an entity like a God could manipulate matter and energy(obeying laws) to a much greater scale than humans have the time to discover.
How is that God? What do you mean by God? Define this entity.
It is speculated that outside of our universe "our" laws perhaps are different or don't exist. Maybe a God could create these laws in the first place. I'm just playing devils advocate here btw :)
Not really. There is no other "side" of the discussion, it's just baseless speculation.
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Science and Philosephy.- God
by HowTheBibleWasCreated inwhen i discovered ervs and #2 chromosome i knew there was no personal god.
the rest is history.
i have always since kept updated in science as much as possible.. .
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Viviane
How exactly has the universe become more complex over time? Do you mean to say it has become more chaotic?
The formation of atoms, molecules, stars, planets, heavier elements, life.
However to offer some counter-argument to your claim of the comparison being entirely unparallel: what if God is made up of only matter/energy?
What would that mean? That God is physical? No special powers? Can be destroyed?