Viviane

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  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

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  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  You are wrong, because you exclude that a hypothesis can be also a speculation. For instance:

  According to the above definition, I repeat what I said:

  So we have if P => Q, where P is the hypothesis (God exists) and Q is the consequent (he does not interfere in our life).

  Of course I'm not. You have no consequent, no proposition. You spent a lot of time researching that only to forget the "then" part. What you have is "I speculate this undetected creature could have this property". It's just antecedant with nothing else. It's still not a hypethesis, it's just speculation.
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  And as far as me "sounding like" someone you apparently insulted, you and your friends all sound the same to me.

  I always thought he sounded sexy. In my head, at least.
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  So, Paris, you're retracting your general claim that atheists claim theists are uneducated? If not, can you provide specific examples of that claim being made?
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  I get irritated with atheists when they consistently say theists have no education, do not know anythng about science, and are not as smart as they are. Its a very jw way of dividing people.

  Who, specifically, is saying theists in general have no education? Can you be specific? I can provide tons of specific examples of specific people here that lack a solid foundational education in science. There are also a lot of atheists that do also.
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  Hypothesis: an idea that attempts to explain something but has not yet been tested or proved to be correct

  Exactly. A key component of a hypothesis is attempting to explain something. What is that something? What is the observation you are attempting to explain? What measurement? What phonomenon? What, specifically, is the "something" that needs explanation? Also, that isn't even a scientific definition you've provided, proofs only exist in math. Testing is also mentioned. How would you test your speculation? What are the consequenses if your idea is correct?

  You've not got a hypothesis, but speculation.
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  My hypothesis is that God exists, but he decided not to interfere in our life. He just wants us to evolve by ourselves. If there is a life after our death, we can know it for sure after dying.

  That's not a hypothesis, that's speculation.

  If there is a judgment after our death, this judgment could not be based on our religious beliefs, because the hypothetical true God does not support any religion. Accordingly, for God, it does not matter if you are musilm, a member of a satanic cult , that is, a member of JW.ORG.

  Also speculation. A hypothesis includes testability.
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  No worries, Outlaw!

  Oubliette, true enough. I love it when I learn a new word.
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  The Great Crowd Catch 22

  by Perry in

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  just had a two hour conversation with my father.

  he is insistent that he will be able to enter the kingdom of god as a member of the 'great crowd'.

  he did agree that only the annointed are declared righteous.

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  Viviane

  How do we know Muslims or Jews don't have the right religion?
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  When I point out the inherent contradiction in this position--that being an "atheist" means not believing God, therefore they are angry at nothing--they generally get upset.

  So that person is not an atheist, they just have a poor vocabulary.

  Next time look the word up before you use it..

  Outlaw, if, as we can see below, an oxymoron is a firgure of speech that is contradictory, it's consistent with the idea of an oxymoron even not necessarily keeping with the strict terms of what makes up a "figure of speech". As we can see above, those claiming to be atheists AND angry with God aren't atheists, they just have a poor vocabulary, much like those claiming to believe in personal liberty and smaller government while at the same time saying the government should make homosexuality illegal. noun noun: oxymoron ; plural noun: oxymorons

  1. a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g., faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).
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  101

  A question for Athiests.

  by new hope and happiness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

  some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

  i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

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  Viviane

  Outlaw, do you have any examples of atheists that are angry with God, that actually believe but claim otherwise due to their anger?