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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic in
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chris tann,.

in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .

however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
Viviane

Caedes, what is at the fringes of the natural universe gives us indications what is outside of it

"Natural universe" is a meaningless term. We can't see the fringes of the universe.

The movement, radiation that signals that all that matter has disappeared, out of the universe into a black hole, leaving only it's effects.

That has nothing to do with your claims or the cosmic background radiation.

time stands still in these conditions, and you can not be part of the universe if you do not paricipate in its movement through time.

Math suggests spacetime dilation would be at a maximum. Spacetime flow for observers in different frames of reference would change. In any event, time would most certainly not "stop", whatever that means.

Remember that we live in a fabric of spacetime that is moving, expanding, and black hole matter has left us.

What does that even mean, "black hole matter has left us"? Left who? Gone where?

I know Black holes have nothing to do with the genesis account, but they are part of the ongoing saga of the universe's development, points where time stands still again, because it was so there so dense, so energetic, fast again.

That sentence makes as much sense as saying "derpa derpa wharrrgrrbl".
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic in
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2. beliefs
chris tann,.

in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .

however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
Viviane

No it isn't. Data is alignment of magnetic particles. The particles are always there, representing some kind of information, regardless of how much of its space is occupied by coherent "data" stored there deliberately by humans.

Complexity doesn't refer to the number of bits that can have a 1 or a 0 set. It refers to systems or parts that have relationships and interact with other systems or parts. Random bits on a drive are not interecting with with anything nor do they have any structure to do so. There is no definition of complexity that would even suggest that sectors on a drive with a random value are equally as complex as a drive holding a database or files.
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Creationist Should Dismiss Genesis Quickly
by Coded Logic in
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2. beliefs
chris tann,.

in your earlier post you seemed to be under the impression that genesis and science were somehow compatible .

however, the truth is the two are not reconcilable at all.
Viviane

Caedes, I agree, and did not say there is a place OUTSIDE time, to the contrary: There was time before there was a place, like space.

Time and space are the same thing.

I wish too, that black holes did not exist

If they didn't, you wouldn't. You're wishing for your own non-existence.
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Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly
by Chris Tann in
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2. bible
nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.

the debate.

for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.
Viviane

So the claim that God created Heaven and Earth matches with science.

Utterly ridiculous nonsense.
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Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly
by Chris Tann in
1. watchtower
2. bible
nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.

the debate.

for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.
Viviane

This word denotes a sphere not a circle,which could still be flat.

No, it doesn't.
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Satan, perfection, new world, and being s***ted on again
by Tenacious in
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according to the bible man was created a little lower in abilities to that of angels.

this means that angels are a tad higher in regards to their perfection.

perhaps they have a word for it in the spirit realm as we mere mortals do not.
Viviane

Of course God knew what would happen if they used their freedom the wrong way: apparently, He thought it worth the risk. (...) If God thinks this state of war in the universe a price worth paying for free will -that is, for making a real world in which creatures can do real good or harm and something of real importance can happen, instead of a toy world which only moves when He pulls the strings- then we may take it it is worth paying.

So... God really is just a guy hoping things don't go wrong and, if they do, can't fix it? Not much of a god you have there.
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Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly
by Chris Tann in
1. watchtower
2. bible
nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.

the debate.

for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.
Viviane

Im thinking that this site may not be for me. I was looking for a site with fading JW's who need help deciding.

That exactly what you have. The problem is that you are looking only for helping them decide on what you want, not one where everyone can weigh in and call bunk on your beliefs also.

I did not intend to argue creation and evolution.

You started the thread. What did you think would happen?
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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher
by fulltimestudent in
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got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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Viviane

I do, however, invariably feel irritated by anyone who assumes they know how I am feeling whether on the internet or in person. So in the spirit of the video, ZIP YOUR LIPS! SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!

I know that won't offend you because I'm a courageous female feminist standing up for my opinion and that makes it all good, no matter if a bunch of other people might find it rude!

It doesn't bother me in the least to see you stoop that low. Your choice to become what you found distasteful.
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Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?
by Gnostic Bishop in
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have you investigated gnostic christianity?.

the gnostic wing of christianity, if it can even be called that today, has quite a few differences to christianity and catholicism.

if the old gnostic christians were here, they would hardly recognize what has happened to the original orthodox catholic church or its various offshoots in protestantism and islam.
Viviane

After reading that link, it's exactly as silly as every other version of Christianity.
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How long before there's a conspiracy theory saying we didn't go to the comet?
by ILoveTTATT in
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anyone want to place any bets?.

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Viviane

I've already seen comments saying that because the comet photos sent back have stars in the background and those from the moon don't, it proves the moon photos are fake...