The Koran is a deplorable book written by a deplorable person and commands horrible things. It deserves a huge share of the blame.
Viviane
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What they are teaching is in the Koran. It is the source material for the bloodbath of violence and deserves a huge portion of the blame. -
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Viviane
Omg viv... Seriously. OMFG lol. GO AWAY.
Thanks for that quote. It clearly shows that I never said abortion was deplorable. On a side note, the above chart is making a lot of sense.
You may need this.... http://www.english-grammar-revolution.com/what-is-a-pronoun.html
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Religion makes (and keeps) people dumb.
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Plain to YOU. YOU are interpreting what you read, and now your calling that interpretation, "plain" and saying any who dont agree with you are dishonest....
Plain to anyone who isn't denying reality. Denying reality doesn't change the realness of it.
Id really love for someone else to respond to you, I'm surely not the only one noticing your nonsense.
It's not nonsense to defend reality against those who wish to pretend the Bible isn't a book of blood followed by a death cult.
Again, your sayin it clearly means something when hundreds of millions disagree. What is clear to you is crazy to others.
Hundreds of millions of people thinking 2+2=5 doesn't make it true. Pretending the Bible doesn't command deplorable things doesn't change the fact that it absolutely does so multiple times in very plain language, no matter how many people believe it.
Also, you believe abortion is deplorable amd immoral? Explanation of this possible?
I've no need to explain something I never said.
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Lay the blame on the ones interpreting it this way, not the thing being interpreted.
The thing being interpreted clearly commands rape, murder, slavery, abortion, genocide, theft and murder. It is a deplorable thing. There is no moral defense for this.
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You're seriously being a huge hypocrite here. Just a few pages back you were harping on me for supposedly telling people why they think and feel things, and saying only I have the proper understanding of what the books are saying, even though I never said that...
But here you are ACTUALLY saying what you accused me of, and saying all who disagree with you are dishonest! Lol wonderful. I feel like maybe you're entire account on this forum exists for satire, that would make sense. I can never tell satire from seriousness.You are claiming other Christians are wrong, the Bible and Koran do command murder, genocide, rape, abortion and slavery and 2+2 DOES = 5.
Perhaps the issue is that satire, logical and fallacy don't mean what you think they do.
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Comparing something open to interpretation and unprovable to math, which is a closed fact that is not open to interpretation, is a logical fallacy.
Pretending the repeatedly plain language and multitudes of commands to kill and rape aren't reality is dishonest.
and I won't even pay the rest of your post the courtesy of being read if we are resorting to such faulty reasonings.
No one is forcing you to deny reality and obvious facts and admit you're open to domestic violence.
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Yes it is, because HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of people interpret it to mean the exact opposite of what you do. I'd say your outnumbered viv.
Hundreds of millions people claiming 2+2=5 doesn't make it true. Claiming the Bible and Koran don't endorse and command murder is also not true. It is obvious. A fact. Demonstrable and provable. Claiming otherwise is denying reality. Whatever you or anyone else says about it is irrelevant to the reality of it.
It is not saying, "hit your wife to remind her of her place." You are all the ones being intellectually dishonest because you WANT the Quran to be the reason for these terrible things, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY THESE BAD THINGS HAPPEN.
I've never made any of those claims nor asked that question. Let's stick to reality, please don't pretend other people said this, they did not.
You said you would hit your wife and said it was normal human behavior.
The truth is, sometimes there is no reason, sometimes people just want to hurt others. THAT is reality, and YOU aren't accepting it.
I am well aware the people are shitty. Endorsing a book and a religion that promotes the shittiest of the shit behavior is not a good idea. It brings us back to the question of why anyone would listen promotion of shitty ideas.
This is also why I love dogs. They tend to be shitty at a far lower rate than people.