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  How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

  by JWCartPusher in

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  hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

  please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

  i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

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  Viviane

  Something random? I've no idea what you're talking about.
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  Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

  but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

  cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

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  Viviane

  EoM, if by "making a point" you mean "making stuff up", then sure.

  Otherwise, you are 100% wrong and have not the slightest idea what you are talking about.
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  How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?

  by JWCartPusher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.

  please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.

  i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.

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  Viviane

  The point I was trying to make is there is a big difference between the consciousnesses of man and the origin of the species.

  How could humans have evolved into humans but not have consciousness?

  The majority of archaeologists agree that the cradle of civilization is Mesopotamia Iraq roughly 6000-10000 years ago.

  That pushed back to 12000 years now, in the Levant with a 13000 year old temple in Turkey pushing it even further back, cave drawings, etc., pushing it even FURTHER back.
  
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  Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

  but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

  cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

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  Viviane

  Let me quote yourself as you love to do in so many other instances, "Read a basic book or google it. I'm not doing the work for you."

  I've read many books and googled many things. You still are unable to answer the questions. Pretending to know things you don't isn't very nice.
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  Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

  but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

  cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

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  Viviane

  Viviane,
  There are so much of mysteries even on earth. Google it typing ‘south and north pole mysteries’—which we have not yet succeeded. Hence you can’t expect the answer you like about linking to God!

  Other mysteries have nothing to do with you pretending you knew something about your subject that you brought up and endorsed. I never asked for an answer I liked. I asked you to explain how your subject worked. You've not answered and seem unable to explain any detail of it. Attempting to pretend you've answered and blame me is not appropriate. Simply admit that you don't know how or are able to show it works and just move on.
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  Israel fears extinction

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what a spirited, brilliant speech isreali pm mr. nethanyahu delivered yesterday to the congress against the negotiated nuclear deal with iran which israel fears would make iran a legitimate nuclear power with the ability to wipe out israel.

  (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/03/netanyuahu-congress-iran-nuclear-deal-path-to-bomb).

  he also said: if no one supports, israel would defend itself alone.

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  Viviane

  I just remembered what i had read some time back:

  Hogue is a raging liar asking for money who frequently updates his books when he is proven wrong.
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  Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

  but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

  cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

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  Viviane

  When you are given answer to your question, you have the stereotype response: This is not answer!

  I say that because nothing you wrote is in any way close to an actual answer. I asked a specific question about how turning your brain off works and you go on about water pipes. You clearly cannot answer anything about this. You don't actually know anything about this process. That's fine, but you don't get to pretend you do.

  Let me enjoy my meditation and benefit from it without any measure!

  You are free to not post and go meditate instead of making claims here and get asked questions. Absolutely no one is stopping nor did anyone force you to pretend you knew something about the subject.
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  Methane-Based Life Forms Could Exist on Titan (the giant moon of Saturn), say Scientists

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  liquid water is a requirement for life on earth.

  but in other, much colder worlds, life might exist beyond the bounds of water-based chemistry.

  cornell chemical engineers and astronomers offer a template for life that could thrive in a harsh, cold world specifically titan, the giant moon of saturn.

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  Viviane

  There are many people who do not believe man has landed in Moon in 1969 (google search will give you why they feel so). The only answer we can give to them is that ‘you take up your own moon-mission.’

  That's neither relevant nor true.

  The same applies to you also. You try own meditation.

  Can you or can you not actually answer any questions about this process?

  When you are in such a pure conscious stage, one day you will come in alignment with THE PURE CONSCIOUSNESS which is your very source. Then you will feel an equalization taking place with regard to what is lacking in you—like water finding its own level which means pipe is connected to a water source.

  That is a spectacular non-answer.

  So, you can't or simply won't answer any questions about how this meditation process of seeing colors with your brain and senses turned off works and how the communication with God works.

  Why, if you can't answer simple questions about this, should anyone take you seriously or bother to read anything you write?
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  Please Focus on the Bible

  by terrypike in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi people, may i firstly thank those who have responded to to my intro article, i am replying to you all as a new topic because the direct messaging is not working for me at the moment so i can clarify my perspective on bible study.

  yes there are many arguments that are put forward to demonstrate for example that the bible has been composed of numerous preexisting creation story's ect, my focus is to give the bible the same opportunity to defend itself as anyone reasonably expects if charged with some crime they are not guilty of.. i find for example the account of jesus response when questioned about the divorce certificate 'but it was not so in the beginning' confirms that moses allowed changes to be made to the original, that said consider also the religious traditions moses people had been exposed to, the story of the god enki who seduced even his own grandchildren and the well known incest of the egyptian royalty, given the genetic cost, are such practices any more right now than they were then?

  communities that practice close relative marriages today are well documented for there higher risk of numerous health problems so how would you find moses on that basis, guilty or not guilty as jesus did because he understood why moses took the creation story's of other cultures and gave his people there own creation story that taught them to avoid the general pagan practice of incest.before looking any deeper at moses creation story may i also ask the question why does jesus knowing that god promised he would never again destroy the world by a flood as he did in noah's day say 'as in the days of noah ..the flood came and took them all away' so what did jesus actually mean mt 24:.

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  Viviane

  and can it be measured scientifically ect, the short answer is no because it is not a physical entity

  Got it. You've no idea what a soul is, where it is, what it does or what it is made of, but you're sure it exists and can talk confidently about it.

  If it doesn't exist physically, how does it exist? Be specific.

  but in your reply show no interest in the difference in the medical model as used by othodox medical science as compared with the social model which looks at the effects of circumstances on how one feels and that in turn provides all the evidence you will get from looking to science for the answer as to where is your own soul to be found,actually you have no need to ask anyone about that you just have to be perfectly honest about your own feelings.

  My reply shows that I hear about souls, spirit, spirits all the time and am waiting for one person to explain to me what it actually is. So far, you are added to the list of people that claim all sorts of things about it yet can't even tell me what it is.

  At best, you're using "soul" as an analogy for "brain".
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  Israel fears extinction

  by abiather in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what a spirited, brilliant speech isreali pm mr. nethanyahu delivered yesterday to the congress against the negotiated nuclear deal with iran which israel fears would make iran a legitimate nuclear power with the ability to wipe out israel.

  (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/03/netanyuahu-congress-iran-nuclear-deal-path-to-bomb).

  he also said: if no one supports, israel would defend itself alone.

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  Viviane

  Interestingly, war with Iran is a trigger to greater nuclear use in Nostradamus prophecy.

  Well, first, Nostradamus hasn't made a single prophecy that ever came true (nor has the Bible), so I wouldn't worry about what he says.

  Secondly, you're still posting all sorts of things but not answering detailed questions about Delta frequency and meditation. Don't be rude.