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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  Eden, you really should figure out what your issue is. It's not me, that I can tell you.
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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  And no. I didn't respond to cappytan - he didn't start the drunk talk.

  And yet he was the first person OT. I was agreeing with someone and was on topic, yet I am the person you took issue with. Why is that? What did I say, specifically, that was egregious or OT that offended you and why did you find it offensive?

  Lighten up? Sure...I will get right on that. I will post this on the jokes and humor section next time.

  Oh sheesh, overreact, why don't you?
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  Question for people who believe in Evolution

  by ttte36 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though school i did religious education and my teacher who was religious ruled out evolution because humans are the only creatures who do not want to die, can anyone who understands evolution explain this?.

  im 99% on to the theory of evolution, this is just the last stumbling block..

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  Viviane

  Although if proven, not only will it dispel the notion of creation, but evolution to. The conclusion that man achieved the God Particle would imply the existence of a higher being. Not God, Perhaps a Theoretical physicist a singular genius with a God complex, and he has been playing with creation for over 100,000,000 billion years according to Degrassi’s insight of the universe, and it took our species (MAN) this long to conclude the same.

  That is some weapons grade wharrggrrble right there.
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  Question for people who believe in Evolution

  by ttte36 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though school i did religious education and my teacher who was religious ruled out evolution because humans are the only creatures who do not want to die, can anyone who understands evolution explain this?.

  im 99% on to the theory of evolution, this is just the last stumbling block..

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  Viviane

  Is this from something or are you having wine? Because it's making me laugh either way. I might just start answering my unreasonable relatives this way.

  So, now that I am back to my normal self (normal for me, anyway), "Because Jesus" is an answer that is often used when people use the Bible to support ridiculous positions. For instance, when someone says they are against gay people because they are a Christian, the answer can be summed up as "Oh, you've decided to be a moron and a bigot because Jesus". The reason that works is because they are completely misunderstanding their own holy book and religion.

  For instance, when Michelle Bachmann, a former congresswoman from Minnesota, says that the president of the US is a secret radical Muslim that is bent on arming Iran with nuclear weapons and destroying Israel and that will usher in the end of days, we can safely say she is saying stupid things and is an idiot, but we say it in a sarcastic manner, like "Oh, well yeah, that makes TOTAL sense, because Jesus", at which point we roll our eyes so hard they detach from our optic nerve and fly out of our skull to escape the stupid our brain just ingested.

  Basically, it's used when people invoke being Christian as an excuse for being stupid, bigoted, hateful or someone else unsavory. And it's used snarkily.
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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  I kind of agree, I was off topic.

  Oh, well, sheesh, then the only reasonable response is to be an disapproving in a heavy, disappointed manner that explains just how because you weren't serious enough in an internet forum, children will be raped.

  Because that's totally in proportion for 3 off topic posts.
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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  Thank you for your valuable input, Viviane. Your posts contributed so much information to this subject.
  It is encouraging when the subject of how laws impact child abuse cases is treated respectfully. Next time you wander in drunk to a discussion, do you mind wiping up the booze off the floor before you leave the room?
  Thank you.

  Oh, heavens no dear, not with that rigid attitude.

  In any event, my input was exactly spot on, nor did you criticize cappytan for responding OT to me. It's seems your ire is misplaced and misguided.

  In summary, lighten up, Francis.
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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  Scotch. Bu that I mean goodf scotch. Like Aberfelfy, Macallen, Bavenie,Oban, Laphroig, etc. Scotch old enough that I won;t get arrested for smooching my scotch
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  Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

  " (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

  they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

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  Viviane

  Currently, my asnwer would be DUDES I LOVES YOU! YOURE THE AWESOMEST NOW LETS HAVEDRINKS!

  Or F Off. Both seem equally aweosome.

  Also, Xbox is hard when your drinking,
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  'Clergy' and 'Ordained Ministers'

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  what i can't seem reconcile are the concepts of 'clergy' and 'ordained minister'.. the wts has consistently won legal battles, specifically in cases involving military exemption, by making the claim that each and every baptized jw is an 'ordained minister'.

  and, they bolstered this label with the assertion that 'we do not have a clergy class'.

  so, why is that different now in the sex abuse trials that happening right now?

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  Viviane

  I kind of dig the Whiskey soaked Viviane.

  Cigars are also pretty damn awesome. And wiskey is awesome. DRINKS!
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  Question for people who believe in Evolution

  by ttte36 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  though school i did religious education and my teacher who was religious ruled out evolution because humans are the only creatures who do not want to die, can anyone who understands evolution explain this?.

  im 99% on to the theory of evolution, this is just the last stumbling block..

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  Viviane

  Is this from something or are you having wine? Because it's making me laugh either way. I might just start answering my unreasonable relatives this way.

  First of all, it's reasonable and ridiculosu answer to southern baptists religious family.

  Second, I am a whisky kind iof gal, buster.