so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
You don't know.
Fisherman, you said there was a "substance" that animates living things. What is this substance?
Besides that, it is true that living organisms carry out the processes of life but they must be alive to do so. It is also true that dead things (including rocks) do not carry out life's processes. Nor has it been shown that processes induce the state of life.
Define, specifically, what these "life's processes" are and what, exactly, is a "state of life", please.
so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
You try to create anything out of nothing, then show and talk.
You prove that nothing can even exists. No one has ever encountered an example of it.
Movement through time is compulsory only for us. Pure energy is exempt.
"Pure energy" is a meaningless term.
i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
My mom's birthday was last week. Today we had a birthday party for her, aged flank steak with chimuchurri sauce, corn roasted in husk, grilled Ceasar salad and a vanilla cake with almond butter frosting.
My kids had a great time with their grandmother, spending a day with her, for her, giving her presents and cards they picked out and wrapped.
Depriving people of normal social interaction is despicable.
i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.
i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.
we went to meetings.
My Mom had the Congregation Servant [no body of elders then] come down
I bet she did.
" a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.
" (associated press).
the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.
" a nashville swingers club has undergone a conversion it now says that it is a church in order to win city approval, so that it can open next to a christian school.
" (associated press).
the article explains, "a church is something that cannot be defined under the u.s. constitution"..... wt lawyers explain to the court all of the time; 'you can't interfere with our internal church policies, or you will be infringing on our first amendment rights.
so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
Given a living creature and the same creature dead, the difference between them is the substance that "animates" them.
What is that substance?
so where did god exist before he created the heavens?
it is in fact one mans story. with lots of contradictions I might add. this is whats so puzzling, where did anything come from?
Why did it have to "come" from anywhere?
Since He is a spirit being, He exists "nowhere", He exists outside of the psysical realm.
What is this spirit stuff made of?
you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.
well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.
and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.
several times over the past few months i have had conversations, both here and in real life, with religious people making all sorts of interesting and conflicting claims.
i like to know how things work, so generally i will ask questions to net out what i am being told and see if it can be explained and make sense.. for instance, if someone said 2+2=4 and i asked how, there are a variety of ways that could be shown to me, a number line, physical objects being put together, counting on fingers and toes, etc.
indeed, in my personal life, i often have to explain how certain technologies work, sometimes planned, sometimes off the cuff, from a variety of group sizes to a varying degree of technical expertise.
Since both theories are mystic, there’s no winner. They both cancel each other out according to the laws of physics.
One is an unfounded assertion, one is a fact and a theory, the third is under investigation. None of that has anything to do with the laws of physics in any way.
The elusive Higgs boson, the so-called "God particle," may not have been discovered despite claims of it being detected, some scientists are saying.
So? What does that have to do with religious people making unfounded assertions?
