neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
As the moon landing thread showed, Rebel, what you conclude is irrelevant. You've done no work to investigate how science works, not thought about the question and don't even understand why you're in the category of "cake + blue = unicorn" or, in other words, not even wrong.
Equating your lack of investigation, critical thinking and understanding with the rest of us by claiming "witness like behavior" is emphatically wrong and ridiculous.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
ose are big words, considering to the pile* you can show for,-- compared to the majestic edifice that we live in.
* not trying to belittle your achievements ( if any).
Oh, no worries! You're not capable of belittling me. Also, I can try to use smaller words next time if you promise to at least try to construct your responses in a way that makes sense.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Asking people to define a god so it can be discussed or debated and then just dismissing any silent or absent god as "irrelevant", "worthless" or "pointless", is empty. (argumentum ad lapidem)
This could be avoided by simply giving a justification for the dismissal
No one is asking you to define god that way, it's simply the best any believer has been able to do. Hardly my fault.
neither, can be proven only to the believer can they exist.
we could therefore say that a persons feelings on god and love are simply chemical reactions produced by the brain.
however what i find interesting is that if a certain part of a persons brain gets damaged their personalities and emotions can radically change.. the rebel..
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
That's the point, stuff. Any god defined ever is either irrelevant or an asshole.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
Google "sumerian tablet showing solar system"
I'm well aware of that claim. What I am lacking is any evidence of that being true, what with pictures of the sumerian tablet in question not showing that at all.
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
And that's what people argued about the atom with no contrary proof. Then they proved it. It is a good example.
You said they argued about it with no proof on either side and now you claim they "proved" it. Which is it? Also, do you understand what evidence is and how proof works? It doesn't appear that you do.
I never suggested anything about the nature of "something".
Well, yes you are, because you then say "That's completely overblown by organized religions to make you dependent on them." If you say that their claims are wrong, you are absolutely taking a position on the nature of the thing they (and you) are making claims about.
If you would like - prove to me that "something" does not exist.
What something are you asking about?
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
That's a bit circular. I'm afraid you misunderstand me. I have made to attempt to claim/prove a God is real. I claim no tangible or empirical proof. But then again God cannot be proven to not be, or have been, real either.
I've not misunderstood you. You think there is a something. You said that you don't believe it is possible for humans to understand any possible evidence for god. I am simply saying that if there no evidence humans could understand, you can't possibly every assert that is a god that matches that lack of evidence. In what way is that circular?
Is the atom worthless and pointless? A couple of hundred years ago people said it didn't exist
People still say that. The problem here is that you are attempting to equate "don't have the information and technology to derive the information and proof" with "unable to understand the information even if they had the information and proof".
There was a Sumerian tablet uncovered by archaeologists that dated back to some 7000BC. On the tablet was an imprinted picture of the solar system with orbits. It also included Pluto. ?? Even though it has been there the whole time, our science didn't discover/prove it until about 1930.
Please show us that.
I'm not saying that anyone has to believe in a God, or follow one if they did - but I'm not closing the door. What if they closed the door on the atom because they didn't understand it? Or life on other planets?
You said science was worthless in this area and then attempt use something where science was the only way to discover this information as a reason we should remain open to this thing science could never possibly help us with and that we can't ever possibly comprehend.
That's not how it works.
